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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadacho View Post
    This.

    Smell is subjective too, seen as different people interpret smells differently (e.g. "This smells nice!" "No it doesn't!") If you don't like a smell, that doesn't suddenly mean it's not a smell anymore.


    We were finally off that subject...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post

    ROFL!!! That gif is hilarious!

    Back onto the SE Scare, I honestly feel my character looks better right now.. So... please dont go backwards SE there is no room for that. Other mmo's are not that far behind.

    And apparently Korea is possibly even far ahead... ;/
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    Art is art, the only subjectivity of art is whether you like it or not or deem it worthy of your collection. People will pay millions for a circle on a canvas just because a popular artist does it, but some would piss on true works of art just because the artist is unknown or a 'ganster' but that doesn't change the fact something is a work of art. This is the problem with the english language though, people clearly use it in different manners.
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    By putting that broad a scope on it, everything is art then? I disagree completely with that. And so do many other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    By putting that broad a scope on it, everything is art then? I disagree completely with that. And so do many other people.
    Because you dont like that the word everything has a broad scope you will put your own personal meanings into it? No, the word means what it means.

    But it's good to know you are working on your own language called Ingolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Because you dont like that the word everything has a broad scope you will put your own personal meanings into it? No, the word means what it means.

    But it's good to know you are working on your own language called Ingolf.
    You need to relax my friend. I've said my piece feel free to agree or disagree with it. I see art as a subjective medium in both definition and application. If you feel differently then feel free to feel differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    You need to relax my friend. I've said my piece feel free to agree or disagree with it. I see art as a subjective medium in both definition and application. If you feel differently then feel free to feel differently.
    Funny image I thought of for this lol:


    The word factually includes anything requiring skill and imagination (could be argued everything, but less successfully so). But it is really illogical to say that making a video game isnt an art - because its purchased, or because you dont like it. Its like saying commissioned art isnt art, even though right there in the wording it says.. "art".

    Or better yet its like saying, because I don't like the game its not a game. IT is still a game, but maybe it is not a fun game. I don't like Counter Strike - its not a first person shooter because I say so.

    I know you are not illogical so maybe that's why It bothers me so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    By putting that broad a scope on it, everything is art then? I disagree completely with that. And so do many other people.
    Art is a beautiful thing.. don't dis it man without art, A lot of things wouldn't exist in this world as they do today.

    Blueprints to inventions, Paintings, Gaming etc, If the world didn't have the term "Art" where would we be as humanity?
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    I don't necessarily agree with Roger Eberts stance on whether video games are art, because I believe that there are some artistic games out there.

    I just think that calling every single video game released 'art' is cheapening the definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    By putting that broad a scope on it, everything is art then? I disagree completely with that. And so do many other people.
    What you're using art for:

    "This picture is a true work of art." Basically, it's something that's so good it can be called "art". What a lot of people use the word "art" for is the general sense, which is where the subjectivity of it come in, you either like or hate it, but can't deny that something is art.

    For example the shading on the different materials in this game is very nice, that's good texture work and use of shaders, which is all art. Do you like or hate it? That's what most mean, rather than looking at something like say The Battle of San Romano line of works, you'd probably call that a work of art, right?

    This is why I said it's just really the english language since you're interpreting it and using it in one way, others are in another way..neither side is really wrong.
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