TGS Trailer ahoy!

[Seirra_Lanzce]

I really doubt they will do that. Siliconera might, but Kotaku or IGN... I don't think so.

they've deleted the whole video, if the other side just hotliiink it, it doesn't matter the video is already taken down. unless they download and upload the old one just for the sake of hate. unless they are contacted to take down and upload the new one. which will probably be the best way to do so, BTW is just the same scene, so is the encoders fault :P which side? dunno... lol

[Elexia]

Well that is good to hear then ^.^. Just hopefully, the other sites change it for the laggy Trailer, to the non-laggy Trailer :P.

Doesn't matter, the damage is done and people aren't really caring atm especially now that we know ARR is more than likely 1-2 years off.

[Starlord]

Doesn't matter, the damage is done and people aren't really caring atm especially now that we know ARR is more than likely 1-2 years off.

1-2 years off? yeah ok

[Elexia]

1-2 years off? yeah ok

Yep. No need to be overly optimistic about it, the fact we go from Alpha in "Late september-early october" to "After the servers go down on november 11th" when that was originally the beta should tell you to finally wake up about the reality of the situation.

Source?

This sounds more like baseless negativity than thought filled speculation.

I'm sorry YOU don't feel like it's going to be good enough to release. Personally, the trailer still has me excited for ARR and I think it's looking great.

We're looking at a few months of testing starting in mid november (if even exactly as the servers go down) and we already know the first phase of testing is locked to Japanese region only. Unless you assume the testing starts the second servers goes down it may release in early 2013, otherwise it's pretty clear we're a long way from release at this point.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post837083

So baseless speculation? No not really, you have to assume there's going to be downtime between the closing of the servers and the start of first closed alpha test.

[Starlord]

Yep. No need to be overly optimistic about it, the fact we go from Alpha in "Late september-early october" to "After the servers go down on november 11th" when that was originally the beta should tell you to finally wake up about the reality of the situation.

If you say so person who has "all the truth in the world"

Source that Alpha Starts in November please.

[Alerith]

We're looking at a few months of testing starting in mid november (if even exactly as the servers go down) and we already know the first phase of testing is locked to Japanese region only. Unless you assume the testing starts the second servers goes down it may release in early 2013, otherwise it's pretty clear we're a long way from release at this point.

I'm curious how this leads you to a conclusion of 1-2 years before release. Unless, of course, you're merely being an idiot, which for you, as of late, is completely likely.

Even if they don't start the first series of Alpha tests until the beginning of Decemeber, roughly half a month after the game goes down (which I really can't fathom why they would do that.), that still leaves the game set to be released early 2013. Now track with me here....we're in the latter part of 2012...which means 2013 is still less than six months away. Even if they released the game in March of 2013, that's still six months and nowhere near your 1-2 year "prediction". I don't even see why it would take THAT long, considering the testing shouldn't take 6 months even with tweaks.

As a side bar:

What the hell happened to you? Are you the new owner of this account or something? You used to have really strong opinions backed by facts and solid info. Whether it was positive or negative, you had thought and organization put into your arguments. Lately you've just been...stupid. You're acting like every other bandwagon hater who posts negativity just for the sake of it, rather than putting thought into what you post.

It's disappointing and sad really.

[Alerith]

Doesn't matter, the damage is done and people aren't really caring atm especially now that we know ARR is more than likely 1-2 years off.

Source?

This sounds more like baseless negativity than thought filled speculation.

I'm sorry YOU don't feel like it's going to be good enough to release. Personally, the trailer still has me excited for ARR and I think it's looking great.

[Eldarion18]

Well they deleted the old ones and uploaded a new one

http://youtu.be/NJ88oe0R_lw

The chocobo riders sequence remains just as choppy but I'm not entirely sure if it's a problem of FPS loss or over-simplified animations but it looks like lego models put into motion.

I just don't know how the designers can't see it. SE why is this animation problem escaping your notice????

[Elexia]

I mean honestly, when you stop to think about it it is clear they're not completely on schedule since they do want to make sure ARR's release go over hell of a lot better than 1.0's release so they're definitely taking their time to make sure everything is right even for alpha testing which these days are usually at least polished to the point it's only missing a majority of it's launch content.

For example in ARR Alpha it could have every Gridania quest for testing since it will let you not only test basic mechanics but test the actual flow and see how it is but it will obviously have no dungeons or crystal tower, this is likely the point they want it to be and clearly end of September isn't going to be enough time for it.

[Alerith]

I mean honestly, when you stop to think about it it is clear they're not completely on schedule since they do want to make sure ARR's release go over hell of a lot better than 1.0's release so they're definitely taking their time to make sure everything is right even for alpha testing which these days are usually at least polished to the point it's only missing a majority of it's launch content.

For example in ARR Alpha it could have every Gridania quest for testing since it will let you not only test basic mechanics but test the actual flow and see how it is but it will obviously have no dungeons or crystal tower, this is likely the point they want it to be and clearly end of September isn't going to be enough time for it.

I agree about the off-timeline part, and I'm actually ok with that. Like you said, the team is planning on taking the time necessary to make sure the game is going to succeed when it finally launches.

As far as content for the Alpha build, I'm not so sure it will have that many quests. I mean, Alpha isn't really where you test the gameplay for the most part. However, I think that what you stated for Gridania will likely be the case for when the Betas start up. I just can't see everyone enjoying the quests during Alpha when crashes and major bugs are likely going to afflict gameplay.