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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    FPSs are also generally confined on a map by map basis very seldom with a consistent world. Everything is prerendered and scripted on that map.

    MMOs however, takes much more memory in the long run due to it's persistent world and needing to render more things at a time. You don't have NPCs in FPS matches for example, nor do you have constant events happening that isn't scripted into the maps background, for example planes flying overhead etc.

    So while both are online games, MMOs are a different beast.
    A lot of those considerations are server side. Most FPS load more physical entities then MMOs (models) - though only from 4 ~ 64 of them are moving. In MMO's the average is higher but usually not often do you see more then 20-30 on your screen at once.

    FFXIV 2.0 will be confined on a map by map basis as well.

    And because its persistent doesnt mean much for the client, because it lasts longer doesnt add more memory - you arent changing the environment or something like minecraft , you come you leave nothing really changed lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-20-2012 at 05:15 PM.

  2. #242
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    im wondering if the final version can handle mass pvp battles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I'm completely serious. That is the crappiest looking PS3 game I have ever seen. I would rather they scrap PS3 than show keep showing that to the public.

    The Characters look like they were made in paint..
    You must not have seen many PS3 games. That's a pretty large claim you're throwing out, since there are plenty of PS3 games that look absolutely horrid. The only problem with this is that the characters look out of place in the world. Everything else looks fine. I'd rather have wonky shadows than jaggies everywhere.

    Then again I'm not going to actually play the PS3 version. So nothing of value was lost.
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    bla bla bla. The only other mmorpg playing on ps3 is dc universe, and graphics it's way more shitty of this. I can't honestly believe people get upset because ARR have a dumbed down graphic. It's a mmorpg on a shitty console, and it still loog quite good for all the memory problem it have
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNtB5...layer_embedded

    New Korean MMO "Black Desert"'s Graphics.

    Just Sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNtB5...layer_embedded

    New Korean MMO "Black Desert"'s Graphics.

    Just Sayin'
    That's happen when you can concentrate only on PC. (rotfl at yoshi p. when he stated that ARR will have the best graphics in an mmo). And yes, i'm 1000% sure that PS3 will limit what they can develop on PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    im wondering if the final version can handle mass pvp battles.
    that's why i'm whining about PS3 ... It's not only a graphics issue,
    but for example if they want to add let's say a 100 vs 100 pvp mode, they can't.
    Or cover the ground with a lot of grass (look black desert trailer) Just because Ps3 can't handle that.

    Returning IT, let's suppose that the crappy trailer is from PS3 vers. ,

    It's still inadmissible that a major SH about to relaunching their most ambitious project,
    release such a poor trailer.. Crappy frame rate, very bad camera angle, same old footage (i can do better with fraps...)

    I really can't understand how they could release a trailer like this... :/
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    Last edited by Dragonheart; 09-20-2012 at 06:23 PM.

  8. #248
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    please square enix make a trailer like this .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=TNtB5DoJ6OI#!
    We know you make a real FF series game, it's time to show other elements of the game now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangelus View Post
    please square enix make a trailer like this .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=TNtB5DoJ6OI#!
    We know you make a real FF series game, it's time to show other elements of the game now
    Why the trailer of the "same" new korean mmo it's more exciting than arr's trailers we got?
    That's the first trailer ever, and it's still a pre-alpha. But it looks great already. 4 min of gameplay,
    that shows you a lit of aspect.. And we got a trailer where the gameplay scenes are choppy and fast so you can barely understand something.. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNtB5...layer_embedded

    New Korean MMO "Black Desert"'s Graphics.

    Just Sayin'
    It looks worse than current XIV, and probably a little better than 2.0.

    I'm waiting to see how we can make 2.0 look @ max though. In every game I've ever played, the screenshots and trailers look worse than it looks on my screen.
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