Ok Gil question from live letter

[Alhanelem]

Either way this will be the first time Yoshida has gone back on a promise he made to us. He has stated on a number of occasions that we will not lose anything we have earned during the changeover to ARR.

He hasn't gone back on a promise. You are not losing anything. EVERYTHING is being SCALED porportionally. Everyone's gil is being scaled by the same amount, the NPC buy and sell prices are being scaled by the same amount, Gil given is being scaled by the same amount.

If you have say 10,000 gil now, you'll have 1,000 gil after, yes, but that 1,000 gil will buy the same stuff that the 10,000 would have bought before. In other words, the number might be smaller, but the value is the same.

[Kairukun]

He hasn't gone back on a promise. You are not losing anything. EVERYTHING is being SCALED porportionally. Everyone's gil is being scaled by the same amount, the NPC buy and sell prices are being scaled by the same amount, Gil given is being scaled by the same amount.

If you have say 10,000 gil now, you'll have 1,000 gil after, yes, but that 1,000 gil will buy the same stuff that the 10,000 would have bought before. In other words, the number might be smaller, but the value is the same.

Why can't little kids just understand this?

[Lum]

This scale back is good for the long run. Imagine how intimidating it would be for new players to see things being sold for 100mil.

[darkstarpoet1]

This scale back is good for the long run. Imagine how intimidating it would be for new players to see things being sold for 100mil.

not any worse than it will be for them to see they are selling for 10mil when it takes forever to make gil since everything will give them less gil. it's all relative.

something costing a million when you can make 50k a leve isn't any different than seeing something cost 100k when you make 5k a leve. either way it's the same amount of time and actions to get what you want.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

not any worse than it will be for them to see they are selling for 10mil when it takes forever to make gil since everything will give them less gil. it's all relative.

something costing a million when you can make 50k a leve isn't any different than seeing something cost 100k when you make 5k a leve. either way it's the same amount of time and actions to get what you want.

^ this exactly.

[Griss]

At times like this I am reminded of when they tacked on the extra 0 to main scenario rewards and such back in testing.

[Mikita]

Ok so i know there are 2 translation from the letter one from the official GM of this forum and a random person that translated it. The random person state that yoshi said he will be taking 1 digit of gil meaning if you have 1000 you will have 100 in 2.0 56mil to 5.6mil etc. But in the translated question that was made by the GM in the forum he only has the question that hes taking out 1 digit from the cap only?

So my question is are people with only CAP gil is affected or everyone will loose 1 digit?.

Reinheart's translation is correct.

Bayohne's post was not incorrect, but it was not complete and ended up giving the wrong impression.


*phew* Just found a good and official translation.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post831748

[Felis]

I quote myself

Say item x cost 20m in 1.0. Someone want to sell it in ARR for 15m (150m in 1.0). Most players have less than 7m in ARR (70m in 1.0).
The seller can now decrease his price or wait until the players have enough money. But don't forget, we get 1/10 gil from leves, from stuff we sell to npc, from quests, from chests and from monsters (I hope they change the "earn x gil from killing enemies" achievement). It get harder to earn the missing gil to buy the item that cost 15m. So the seller have no other choice than to decrease his price.

[darkstarpoet1]

I quote myself

i agree with you in theory. people will originally try to sell items for that original 20 mil and it won't sell. they will then drop it to 15mil and it probably won't sell there either, but after a few more drops the item may sell for 6mil. it will be selling for 14mil less than it did before, but the profit after the new currency could be much higher. in the above example the going rate would have been 2 mil, but since someone bought it for 6 then it'd selling for 300% of the expected rate.

i'm not saying all items will sell for that much more above the expected conversion rate, but i do expect the values of certain items to change due to a difference in demand due to less overall currency to blow. i say this because of items like foods and potions are more of a needed item so i doubt they ever drop to that 10% of the original price, but other items will probably wind up falling to below that 10% price. i don't ever see shards selling for 3-7 gil nor foods for 100 gil, but i can see a 500k sword dropping to 50k.

when people only have a few hundred k they're not likely to spend hundreds of thousands on one item, but they are likely to spend it on foods and all even if it's half the price it is now.

[LemmingKingXXX]

i agree with you in theory. people will originally try to sell items for that original 20 mil and it won't sell. they will then drop it to 15mil and it probably won't sell there either, but after a few more drops the item may sell for 6mil. it will be selling for 14mil less than it did before, but the profit after the new currency could be much higher. in the above example the going rate would have been 2 mil, but since someone bought it for 6 then it'd selling for 300% of the expected rate.

i'm not saying all items will sell for that much more above the expected conversion rate, but i do expect the values of certain items to change due to a difference in demand due to less overall currency to blow. i say this because of items like foods and potions are more of a needed item so i doubt they ever drop to that 10% of the original price, but other items will probably wind up falling to below that 10% price. i don't ever see shards selling for 3-7 gil nor foods for 100 gil, but i can see a 500k sword dropping to 50k.

when people only have a few hundred k they're not likely to spend hundreds of thousands on one item, but they are likely to spend it on foods and all even if it's half the price it is now.

that's the beauty of market fluctuations, prices will drop to the extent that the buyers will accept the price, this acceptance has a metric posteriorquantity of factors that come in to consideration, only one of which is available currency