No Arrows in ARR?!

[Elexia]

Fact: Both the BRD and WAR have that option, BRD doesn't have the option not to use arrows.

This defeats the earlier claim that only ARC/BRD spends gil to level. But everyone should be happy now, SE is making everything easy to play, so no one will have any worries about needing gil for anything, especially consumables.

[Ingolf]

This defeats the earlier claim that only ARC/BRD spends gil to level. But everyone should be happy now, SE is making everything easy to play, so no one will have any worries about needing gil for anything, especially consumables.

Well it should be "Only ARC/BRD has to spend gil to level"

inb4 auto attack punching the mob.

And yes I'm happy, I don't know why anyone wouldn't be. Assuming the arrows are the same, and that all you're losing is the constant gil cost, it's win win for everyone.

Well I guess carpenters lose, but you can still make furniture and weapons.

[Ingolf]

Archers need arrows to simply function.

Your point? When they add Musketeer, I would fully expect the job to require ammunition, a gun is pretty much useless without bullets, and even energy weapons would need an energy source. Your argument might actually have merit if the game locked the player into one job or role, since it doesn't, your argument is invalid. (Case in point, despite my sig, I am a main job Brd, and i've never felt like my job was harder or more expensive than say a mnk or pld, which I also play.)

It wasn't harder, but it was more expensive.

Ammo shouldn't be a concern when leveling a job. It puts off new players and is a constant gil drain.

[NoctisUmbra]

Your point? When they add Musketeer, I would fully expect the job to require ammunition, a gun is pretty much useless without bullets, and even energy weapons would need an energy source. Your argument might actually have merit if the game locked the player into one job or role, since it doesn't, your argument is invalid. (Case in point, despite my sig, I am a main job Brd, and i've never felt like my job was harder or more expensive than say a mnk or pld, which I also play.)

Then get ready to be disappointed. Likely they'll have guns as weapons and no need to buy ammunition.

This isn't to say ARCs wont use arrows and MSKs wont use bullets in ARR. You just won't have to buy/equip them.

Not all games with guns require you to purchase ammunition. It's part of playing a virtual game to not have to worry about EVERY aspect of reality.

[Ingolf]

It was done in FFXII. You bought quivers.

[Zumi]

Then get ready to be disappointed. Likely they'll have guns as weapons and no need to buy ammunition.

This isn't to say ARCs wont use arrows and MSKs wont use bullets in ARR. You just won't have to buy/equip them.

Not all games with guns require you to purchase ammunition. It's part of playing a virtual game to not have to worry about EVERY aspect of reality.

Basically this. It is a fantasy game and stuff doesn't have to be realistic. When they took away arrows and bullets in WoW nobody complained, they just magically shoot their ammo. People were happy they didn't have to keep buying arrows and bullets on the AH.

To the same extent carrying 5000 arrows at one time isn't realistic either.

[Elexia]

To the same extent carrying 5000 arrows at one time isn't realistic either.

Neither is carrying well over 9,999 different kinds of crystals, yet we are.

[Ingolf]

Neither is carrying well over 9,999 different kinds of crystals, yet we are.

Sometimes I actually worry that you have the most posts on these forums.

[Zumi]

Neither is carrying well over 9,999 different kinds of crystals, yet we are.

The point is people arguing its not realistic for Bows or Guns not to use ammo, but there's tons of stuff in the game that isn't realistic so in the end it doesn't really matter.

[Ingolf]

Basically this. It is a fantasy game and stuff doesn't have to be realistic. When they took away arrows and bullets in WoW nobody complained, they just magically shoot their ammo. People were happy they didn't have to keep buying arrows and bullets on the AH.

To the same extent carrying 5000 arrows at one time isn't realistic either.

This is FFXIV, if Elexia didn't complain at every positive change something would be wrong.