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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Not having bard/archer use arrows is a good thing. It really isn't fair that 1 class has to get singled out always having to buy ammo to do their job where everyone with a melee weapon that doesn't use ammo doesn't have to buy anything. It sucks when your having to spend like 80k for 1 stack of arrows.

    Blizzard actually did the same thing for hunters the archer class in wow. Got rid of their ammo at the end of wotlk and gave them unlimited shots. Nobody really complained.
    So by your logic, they should just get rid of ALL consumables and food since its not fair to expect players to keep thier chosen class/job properly stocked with the appropriate items?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    So by your logic, they should just get rid of ALL consumables and food since its not fair to expect players to keep thier chosen class/job properly stocked with the appropriate items?
    Nope. Food, potions are for everyone. Equal ground here.

    Ammo to use your attacks isn't. Having 1 out of 7 classes being required to spend a bunch more gil just to do their job isn't fair. Warrior can do a bunch of fights with a Archer and at the end of the day the Archer has spent much more gil then the warrior, and that is unbalanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Nope. Food, potions are for everyone. Equal ground here.

    Ammo to use your attacks isn't. Having 1 out of 7 classes being required to spend a bunch more gil just to do their job isn't fair. Warrior can do a bunch of fights with a Archer and at the end of the day the Archer has spent much more gil then the warrior, and that is unbalanced.
    That warrior also probably spent much more gil on melds than the BRD did too, if we're going to get into the "balance" aspect, lets cover all bases. Hell chances are that BRD was in full AF too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    That warrior also probably spent much more gil on melds than the BRD did too, if we're going to get into the "balance" aspect, lets cover all bases. Hell chances are that BRD was in full AF too.
    That's just a poor argument and unrelated to having to spend gil to use your normal abilities. Any class can spend a ton of gil on melds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    That warrior also probably spent much more gil on melds than the BRD did too, if we're going to get into the "balance" aspect, lets cover all bases. Hell chances are that BRD was in full AF too.
    Fact: The archer spent gil to kill monsters

    Assumption: The warrior spent more in materia melds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Nope. Food, potions are for everyone. Equal ground here.

    Ammo to use your attacks isn't. Having 1 out of 7 classes being required to spend a bunch more gil just to do their job isn't fair. Warrior can do a bunch of fights with a Archer and at the end of the day the Archer has spent much more gil then the warrior, and that is unbalanced.
    and maddening potion is for everyone? how about certain foods? I'm sure warriors really get a major benefit from taking ethers. Your logic still does not compute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    and maddening potion is for everyone? how about certain foods? I'm sure warriors really get a major benefit from taking ethers. Your logic still does not compute.
    Archers need arrows to simply function.

    No class needs any pots or food to function. Foods and pots enhance them. They can and are also used by ARCs.

    Sure, warriors will be using maddening potions, but DDs will be using str/attack potions and mages will be using MP/m.accuracy/attack magic foods and pots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    and maddening potion is for everyone? how about certain foods? I'm sure warriors really get a major benefit from taking ethers. Your logic still does not compute.
    Its like I said, everyone the game can use food and potions
    A tank may use a maddening potion, while a melee would use a Mega-potion of Strength. Mages may use ethers, while non mp classes can use hp potions.
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    I use warped arrows near level cap... I may be the only one, but at the very least, no carpenter's going to be missing my gil after the switch over X)
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    The whole reason I have leveled Carpenter up was to make my own arrows and now they are taking them out. Sucks to some extent but then again going through arrows is a pain in the neck. At least I will be able to craft furniture to sell to make up for the loss in arrow money.
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