No Arrows in ARR?!

[Elexia]

The cost isn't the issue, it's the fact that, short of leeching, one cannot level ARC without constantly spending gil. Other jobs do not require this.

If other jobs doesn't want to be gimped yes they do constantly spend gil, also 999 arrows lasts a fair bit so you're not "constantly spending gil" unless your party is so gimped (because of no one else spending gil) that battles lasts to the point you're expending up to 100 per battle, yeah you have problems.

Though I can see what you mean, in a world of powerleveling one does not spend a single gil outside of weapons.

[Orophin]

People spend money on food and potions, but nobody else has to spend money on arrows. On my server cobalts average 40k a stack. (well, that's what they were before inflation. I haven't logged in since Atomos patch) Saying archer isn't at a disadvantage is just plain wrong.

[AlexNiculaie]

Are you ever able to make an argument not entirely based around hyperbole?

[Elexia]

Are you ever able to make an argument not entirely based around hyperbole?

It's not an exaggeration, you're literally spending gil on every class you play if you want to play it well. If you want to get down and dirty about it, BRD is actually cheaper to gear given the fact I can pick up tier IV piety and dex materia for far less than I can gearing out a WAR/PLD/BLM.

You're the one using hyperbole.

How does it make sense for one, and only one job be required to spend gil to level when no other does?

Really?

People spend money on food and potions, but nobody else has to spend money on arrows. On my server cobalts average 40k a stack. (well, that's what they were before inflation. I haven't logged in since Atomos patch) Saying archer isn't at a disadvantage is just plain wrong.

Actually, given the bit of TP boost you get from throwing weapons more and more LNC/DRG and MRD/WARs are buying their respective throwing weapons these days. So it's not the same as buying arrows, but everyone are buying consumables regardless of DoW/DoM. Most even stick with Cobalt for end-game and use cheaper arrows (that you can get with seals) on everything else anyway, so in reality everyone is spending the same in the long run, because Elixirs are still quite up there in price if you didn't cap off in the earlier imperial invasions, not to mention maddenin/mega potions.

[TimonLoon]

It's not an exaggeration, you're literally spending gil on every class you play if you want to play it well. If you want to get down and dirty about it, BRD is actually cheaper to gear given the fact I can pick up tier IV piety and dex materia for far less than I can gearing out a WAR/PLD/BLM.

You're the one using hyperbole.



Really?

In his defense... You're spending money trying to min-max. That's perfectly normal. ARC/BRDs are spending money just to deal white damage. From Lv1, all the way to 50, and at end game.

Maybe they don't spend as much money as someone that is min-maxing but to say that they don't spend more money flat out for doing basic things is not only disingenuous, it's not true.

[TimonLoon]

In his defense... You're spending money trying to min-max. That's perfectly normal. ARC/BRDs are spending money just to deal white damage. From Lv1, all the way to 50, and at end game.

Maybe they don't spend as much money as someone that is min-maxing but to say that they don't spend more money flat out for doing basic things is not only disingenuous, it's not true.

Quoting myself again because it seems the idiots missed it. Shut the fuck up and stop this stupid argument already.

[Zumi]

In his defense... You're spending money trying to min-max. That's perfectly normal. ARC/BRDs are spending money just to deal white damage. From Lv1, all the way to 50, and at end game.

Maybe they don't spend as much money as someone that is min-maxing but to say that they don't spend more money flat out for doing basic things is not only disingenuous, it's not true.

This man speaks the truth.

[Fated]

Couldn't care less about the change as long as CRP becomes useful through building furniture or something.

[Wolfie]

It's not even that it's an uneven mechanic, it's that ammo management in general is a dumb mechanic in MOST RPGs. There is never a point where you may want to use less arrows to conserve ammo, and it's not like the game provides you with limited ammo like a survival horror or FPS game would.

It's just kind of there for realism/tradition's sake, and to annoy people with inventory management.

[Colino]

The millions I made on culinary says otherwise.

I never said they don't sell, I said they're the least profitable, so your statement is completely irrelevant.

Take into the account all the mats and time you need to make all that food and consider I can make the same amount of money or more just going out and gathering some resin that people use to make militia boots.

It's just kind of there for realism/tradition's sake, and to annoy people with inventory management.

Yeah pretty much.