No Arrows in ARR?!

[Rokien]

There, I baited the correct answer out of you. Now apply this logic as to why we don't need arrows and how removing them was justified.

Bows shooting arrows is implied by common human intuition. Having arrows as items is unnecessary and adds nothing of value to the game; and the use of arrows can be symbolically recreated via repair costs. The only difference between this game not having arrows, and this game having arrows, is having to do braindead inventory management.

You do know she said those things would make a great game right?

"If they can enter all these realistic things into the game well they'd make a great game." Just the technology and funds wouldn't be worth it, and that arrows are already in the game.

[Aion]

So if removing arrows is not okay with the game, why is not having to clean your blade after every battle okay? Why is it okay that my character doesn't become dead tired and unable to drag her body after fighting with a few dozen monsters? Why is it okay that my character doesn't need to eat, sleep, or drink? Why is it okay that injuries to my character don't permanently reduce my combat abilities, like broken bones and torn ligaments would realistically?

why my char doesnt take a bath....

[Arcell]

1. They're removing the need to stand at a certain spot for combos. Even that doesn't make a class feel different. Just because I stand in a different spot doesn't make a class feel different. It does make it play a very slightly different way. But we should still have a larger difference to class than simply where they stand. How they function should be different.

Actually they said they're keeping the position condition for the first move but removing it for the rest.

2. Nothing is ever JUST about gameplay. There is an emotion evoked with each artistic piece placed into the game. How does music affect gameplay? Why is it so important for FFXIV to have next generation graphics? gameplay reasons? If they dumbed that down I'm sure they could manage some more unique gameplay. But they don't. I remember an archer that chose that class simply because the challenge that buying arrows brought. I've been interested in it myself simply because the variance arrows brought to GAMEPLAY. It's not JUST inventory -1 and if that truly is your only reason for REMOVING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY THERE (why change it if it's not broken??) then why don't they add a quiver bag??

Challenge that buying arrows brought? Lol. I don't even know how to respond to that. Why change it if it's not broken? Because it's needless. The arrows currently serve no real purpose. There's no different ammo types or a need to conserve ammo in any way so they are indeed pointless.

3. If you don't think realism is a part of final fantasy you don't understand it. Yes it is obviously a fantasy. But there's a much higher quality to it than just smashing fantasy elements into one pot. I've seen games do that. Have you ever played Aion? Where they had Dinosaurs giant pianos and people flying around on wings in a floating city all with no real reason other than it's magic all within five feet from one another? Yeah Dinosaurs are cool and I'm sure people would love an epic giant piano. But just mashing it together because it's epic does not make art.

Yeah, guess I just "don't get it".

- As for the arrow buffs confirmed by the dev. They're no different than the buffs other classes have other than maybe their specific effect and timing. They all enter the battlefield with a click of your ability bar the same as all the others.

You have no way of knowing that. Also they're said to add effects to the arrows, much different from how other classes work from what we already know. If you're going to oversimplify the gameplay then every class in every game works the same. You just click buttons and stuff happens, enemies eventually die.

[Airget]

You can't really judge this change til you see how it effects the overall gameplay. From a realistic point of view you say yes one should need to stock up on arrows in order to use a bow. From a game point of view however you have to think that this is the only class that does that atm, so perhaps it should act in the same manner as other classes rather then use ammo just because it's an archer.

One could argue, well why not have arrows with different effects? Well the issue you run with this is that you cause a great strain to inv space for anyone who wants to play ARC. Sure you can say, I have normal arrows, 5 enfeeble arrows and arrows that lower recast time, 2 stacks of each and that's 14/100 inv used just for arrows, while other classes don't need to do any of this currently.

Time will tell how this will effect things though, one thing I imagine however is an ARC dmg output may be lowered since they themselves may be considered a melee class with safety in terms of how much danger they put themselves into. compared to other melee which fight from the front line and are most susceptible to the monster's abilities.

[Ingolf]

[Wolfie]

[Shougun]

There is good art and there is bad art.

But all video games are art.

[Aion]

ok about arrow.....

[Ingolf]

Well I agree that any medium can essentially be art, I just don't agree that Final Fantasy is art, let alone XIV.

[Rokien]

Well I agree that any medium can essentially be art, I just don't agree that Final Fantasy is art, let alone XIV.

Please, PLEASE, BE KIDDING!