No Arrows in ARR?!

[Rannie]

It is...and always has been.



Please list all of the FF games where you have to actually buy the ammo for your bow/gun/etc.

actually there are a few that does. i'm trying to remember which ones did... cause you'd have to buy 99 instead of just 1. I believe in the original 4 you had too. May hap 5 and possibly 6. I never played the original 3 never got very far into 2 and 1 i never used a bow. I also forgot XI

btw with the throw option you had to use ammo for it like Edge with his throw attack you had to buy the shurinken for it to even work some what decently unless you wanted to throw an extra weapon at the enemy

[KaplanHomahru]

actually there are a few that does. i'm trying to remember which ones did... cause you'd have to buy 99 instead of just 1. I believe in the original 4 you had too. May hap 5 and possibly 6. I never played the original 3 never got very far into 2 and 1 i never used a bow.

Yeah, not saying there are none, just not usually so people shouldn't make it out as a staple of all RPGs that must remain.

[Hart]

I don't know why people are complaining about arrow costs now. You knew before you went archer that you had to buy arrows. Infact, different choices in arrows added a level of customization not available in any other job, that alone makes it worth the price.

If you didn't want to buy arrows, maybe you should have leveled a different job? No, instead you whine until developers gut the system to accommodate your hobo lifestyle.

[Rannie]

Yeah, not saying there are none, just not usually so people shouldn't make it out as a staple of all RPGs that must remain.

agree with that I hated that fact about those games the only saving grace for it there was better drops for those said items so you never had to worry about running out of them

[Shougun]

I don't know why people are complaining about arrow costs now. You knew before you went archer that you had to buy arrows. Infact, different choices in arrows added a level of customization not available in any other job, that alone makes it worth the price.

If you didn't want to buy arrows, maybe you should have leveled a different job? No, instead you whine until developers gut the system to accommodate your hobo lifestyle.

Quite a fallacy you build yourself on.

Because something is doesnt mean it has to be as.

And SE whipped that one out on their own, I've seen almost zero complaints on arrows at least from the NA side.

[-Eri-]

I for one... am a mainjob Bard so i spend like 2 stacks of Arrows on Event Days mabe a bit less. In order to compansate the prices for which i buy Arrows, i Lvled Carpenter to 50. Turned out to be a Profit.... now the loss of Arrows would almost hurt me.... then again there will be Furnishings..... so remains to be seen if its really bad. And on the upside I like to craft.

[Vanguard319]

So what consumables do goldsmiths, blacksmiths, armorers, weavers and leather workers make?

Chakram, throwing knives, throwing axes, shall I go on? And yes, people do use them.

[Hart]

Because something is doesnt mean it has to be as.

Speaking of fallacies -- You know, your statement will still be factual even when the arrow change-up has occurred. So I find it odd that you would use it to try and debase my argument.

[Zumi]

In his defense... You're spending money trying to min-max. That's perfectly normal. ARC/BRDs are spending money just to deal white damage. From Lv1, all the way to 50, and at end game.

Maybe they don't spend as much money as someone that is min-maxing but to say that they don't spend more money flat out for doing basic things is not only disingenuous, it's not true.

This man speaks the truth.

[Zumi]

She was pointing out the hypocrisy of Zumi's statement.

You also seem to have forgotten one other important thing, many people level carpenter for ammunition, either to sell, or for thier own personal use, in addition, the arrow recipes are pretty easy to gather materials for, making them good to level on. If you get rid of them, you might as well get rid of carpenter as well, seeing as furniture would require more materials to craft, and it leaves the class with no expendable items worth crafting. (idk about you, but most of the levels I have gained in crafting have been grinding out simple to make, single-use items.)

I already explained this and you still don't get it, Archer and Bard needs to spend gil to preform their basic function no other class has to spend gil to preform their basic function.

You try to make your point by bring in consumables however, everyone has access to potions and food that increase their performance, they may not be the exact same food or potion but the option is there to use food and potions to increase your performance.

Seeing as carpenter can still make, bows, staffs, lances, some swords and other random armor they won't be doing too bad.

This is a good change and makes bard/archer on par with everything else in the game.