Atomos = Inflation...

[Punainen]

While it's about time they nerfed the gil gain from Atomos what are they going to do about the people who abused the crap out of it for the last week? Everything on Balmung has SKYROCKETED in price. Items that were 200k before this event are 4~5mil now. 25m items are 50m. Basically unless you /did/ exploit this, you are left in the dust which is wrong because those of us who DO NOT exploit are getting punished in the economy

It'll come back down as people spend the gil they made.

[Orophin]

It'll come back down as people spend the gil they made.

That money's just transferring hands though, not going into the void. Prices will maintain because the same amount of gil will remain in the economy. The only reason prices will plummet on items will be due to oversupply.

[moriandrio]

That money's just transferring hands though, not going into the void. Prices will maintain because the same amount of gil will remain in the economy. The only reason prices will plummet on items will be due to oversupply.

Prices did skyrocket cause nobody farmed/crafted anymore cause of Atomos, after thix hotfix ppl will go back to usual duty and gonna sell stuff in the wards again. As soon there are enough ppl selling stuff prices will go down again...

[RoninDarkchild]

What is this talk of an exploit??? It wasnt an Exploit, it wasnt a BUG, it wasnt a glitch. SE KNEW you could npc things bought with seals. SE KNEW you use the crystals earned from atomos to make seals, that ppl could npc if they wanted. If you decided not to NPC extra seals then that was your choice. Dont pretend youre better, or more moral then anyone else. It took them a WEEK to fix this. If it was such a huuuge deal they woulda fixed it when they did the 1st emergency maintenance. Asking for them to run back and take away any gil ppl earned is ridiculous. They clearly knew it woudl generate gil, they most likely didnt think the players would be so dedicated to it. The Ui makes it an absolute chore to do it. They probably woulndt have cared, until these threads kept popping up.

And i dont know what servers everyone is on. But Prices on Masamune stayed the same. Things in the Ward that were there a week ago, are still the same prices.

[rekijitsu]

What is this talk of an exploit??? It wasnt an Exploit, it wasnt a BUG, it wasnt a glitch. SE KNEW you could npc things bought with seals. SE KNEW you use the crystals earned from atomos to make seals, that ppl could npc if they wanted. If you decided not to NPC extra seals then that was your choice. Dont pretend youre better, or more moral then anyone else. It took them a WEEK to fix this. If it was such a huuuge deal they woulda fixed it when they did the 1st emergency maintenance. Asking for them to run back and take away any gil ppl earned is ridiculous. They clearly knew it woudl generate gil, they most likely didnt think the players would be so dedicated to it. The Ui makes it an absolute chore to do it. They probably woulndt have cared, until these threads kept popping up.

And i dont know what servers everyone is on. But Prices on Masamune stayed the same. Things in the Ward that were there a week ago, are still the same prices.

A week is about as fast as SE gets.

[sylvestew]

What is this talk of an exploit??? It wasnt an Exploit, it wasnt a BUG, it wasnt a glitch. SE KNEW you could npc things bought with seals. SE KNEW you use the crystals earned from atomos to make seals, that ppl could npc if they wanted. If you decided not to NPC extra seals then that was your choice. Dont pretend youre better, or more moral then anyone else. It took them a WEEK to fix this. If it was such a huuuge deal they woulda fixed it when they did the 1st emergency maintenance. Asking for them to run back and take away any gil ppl earned is ridiculous. They clearly knew it woudl generate gil, they most likely didnt think the players would be so dedicated to it. The Ui makes it an absolute chore to do it. They probably woulndt have cared, until these threads kept popping up.

And i dont know what servers everyone is on. But Prices on Masamune stayed the same. Things in the Ward that were there a week ago, are still the same prices.

Yep prices, on my server seem to be the same to me no crazy hikes or anything. Maybe its just people with no gil that cant afford what they want blaming the event for the high prices that were already there.

[Wynn]

Yep prices, on my server seem to be the same to me no crazy hikes or anything. Maybe its just people with no gil that cant afford what they want blaming the event for the high prices that were already there.

Things appeared to skyrocket on Gungnir, but what I suspect really happened is that everyone bought up the normal priced stuff and, since everyone was farming atomos instead of restocking the wards, all that was left was the overpriced items.

It doesn't really matter in any case. Prices will go back to normal in short order.

[sylvestew]

Things appeared to skyrocket on Gungnir, but what I suspect really happened is that everyone bought up the normal priced stuff and, since everyone was farming atomos instead of restocking the wards, all that was left was the overpriced items.

It doesn't really matter in any case. Prices will go back to normal in short order.

That is a good point i think that is what happened. This effect can be seen in hamlet on my server. Yes prices are the same cause people still make stuff here, but hamlet has been phase 1 for like the past 4 days cause no one is turning anything in cause they are busy doing atomos.

[ShinodaMouri]

A lot of materials have sold on Ragnarok, what remains are the absurdly priced pieces that have been there for over half a year. The obvious complaints here are those from people personally feel their efforts are now devalued. Perhaps they are, but are not on any higher ground as you stated (great post).

I have been NPCing items for months. My method? I prefer to NPC items rather than live in the restriction of the market wards. What I do sell are melded or HQ items that I craft from mats that I gather. I fished up a bunch of fish, i crafted those crystals, i logged my lumber, i made the masks and I NPC'd them. Slow at first, super fast with hasty hand. I don't have to wait, and yes it takes a bit more time. However, I"ve leveled 3 jobs in that time and made a few million gil without stress or delay.

NPCing items for gil are a part of the way the game works. The problem, from my perspective, is not that of an exploit but the underestimation of players to sacrifice efficiency for guarantees. These points all covered by Ronin.

You want to know what DIDN'T help? The obsessive crying and moaning on this forums advertising the methods and procedures in a public forum. If you did that, you actually devalued your own time investment via some weird self-fulfilling prophecy. GMs may be worthless for most things, but an email, chat, or call would have been much more efficient in bringing to light the "problem" while not setting the damn thing on fire. These people shouted fire, and promptly handed out gasoline and matches.

Many of those "lazy" people you know who don't take a single step to earning gil, would have never had the intelligence or whereabouts to figure this out. Instead they jumped on a forum and found their recipe. Don't confused a lack of ambition for the absence of dedication in this players.

[Orophin]

I have been NPCing items for months. In my instances, I prefer to NPC items rather than live in the restriction of the market wards. What I do sell are melded or HQ items that I craft from mats that I gather. I fished up a bunch of fish, i crafted those crystals, i logged my lumber, i made the masks and I NPC'd them. Slow at first, super fast with hasty hand. I don't have to wait, and yes it takes a bit more time. However, I"ve leveled 3 jobs and made a few million gil.

I just wanted to emphasize the underlined/bolded part. You made a few million gil in a matter of months. People made 40 million gil in a week. There is no comparison.