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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    I don't know who translated that text you posted, but you neglected to post the very next question which outright asks "So for now right now if you want same items in 2 gear sets you need to get 2 of the same item?" And the answer was yes. I personally took two years of Japanese in college, and though I would say I'm far from fluent in it, I can personally verify that the quote I posted is pretty accurate. Not that it's necessary as Reinheart's translations are always accurate.

    Please don't try to derail this thread into some fictitious debate about weather the translation was accurate or not. There is no discrepancy if it's right or not. The translation is clear. This is just like the silliness that was going on about regional servers... It was made perfectly clear that we were getting regional servers, but people kept saying it wasn't true because they didn't want to believe it, and they blamed it on translation mistakes. Well we now know for 100% sure we're getting regional servers in lieu of the dev post the other day. I'm just going to dismiss further posts on the subject of the translations credibility as trolling. I won't be responding to them anymore.

    This thread has a purpose, and arguing about something that is already proven fact isn't one of them.
    You dont understand. That is the Translation of exactly that question you are refering to. Those Translations are from the Devs, so if you are saying they are wrong, you also say that the english ones are wrong. Does that makes sense to you?

    We will get International Server with the Option to use a regional Data-Center. <_< Dont tell me to derail, if you come up with servers, which has nothing to do with the question/answer you are posted in your OP.

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    STOP... what the.. you are refering to Rein's Translation over the Q&A from the Dev's? I just checked also the english Q&A and what you posted in your OP is NOWHERE in those files. Could you please tell me that you really dont even read the Q&A of the Dev's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    May I have the source of your German translation?
    I will also give you the english one.

    English:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...II-Q-A-Updates

    German:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/54362-3.-Brief-des-Produzenten-Live!-Q-A-Updates

    Question #23 on both.

    Even if i like Rein's Translation, his Translations have nothing to do with official Q&A and as you can see, Rein's Translation is also different to the english Version of the official Q&A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post

    (As a personal side-note I sure hope we will get enough tabs for every Job/Class. They said additional tabs will be made available through quests. If implemented correctly this will be an amazing feature.)

    TL;DR VOTE HERE / VIEW RESULTS HERE

    Since there seem to be some people questioning the authenticity of this here's the direct quote taken from the live letter:
    So they want to compensate the abolishment of macros with... this?? (makes sense) >.>

    (No thank you) ノー SE. Your reforms are flawed! Your designs are flawed! You're ideas are flawed! 瑕疵 ! I'd apreaciate it if I can keep my macro sets and action bar where it is, (Thank you!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSxpert2011 View Post
    So they want to compensate the abolishment of macros with... this?? (makes sense) >.>

    (No thank you) ノー SE. Your reforms are flawed! Your designs are flawed! You're ideas are flawed! 瑕疵 ! I'd apreaciate it if I can keep my macro sets and action bar where it is, (Thank you!)

    スクウェア·エニックス、ありがとうございましたがありません!

    There's nothing flawed about gear sets. it's the best thing ever. It's STILL the best thing ever, just less so, if it means we need extra items.

    Where did you get the idea they're "abolishing" macros?

    PS. Sticking some japanese in your post doesn't make you cooler or more likely to be heard.

    Besides all that, some people here have come up with perfectly reasonable solutions (e.g. the non-active gear sets aren't extra space, just links)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSxpert2011 View Post
    So they want to compensate the abolishment of macros with... this?? (makes sense) >.>

    (No thank you) ノー SE. Your reforms are flawed! Your designs are flawed! You're ideas are flawed! 瑕疵 ! I'd apreaciate it if I can keep my macro sets and action bar where it is, (Thank you!)

    スクウェア·エニックス、ありがとうございましたがありません!
    You'll still have macros. This is just another option that's supposed to help make it easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    You dont understand. That is the Translation of exactly that question you are refering to. Those Translations are from the Devs, so if you are saying they are wrong, you also say that the english ones are wrong. Does that makes sense to you?

    We will get International Server with the Option to use a regional Data-Center. <_< Dont tell me to derail, if you come up with servers, which has nothing to do with the question/answer you are posted in your OP.

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    STOP... what the.. you are refering to Rein's Translation over the Q&A from the Dev's? I just checked also the english Q&A and what you posted in your OP is NOWHERE in those files. Could you please tell me that you really dont even read the Q&A of the Dev's?
    The Q&A Part clearly doesn't cover everything discussed in the video... It was over an hour long... There were a great many things discussed in the video, and the translation I posted was one of them. Furthermore I witnessed this being said first had during the live video feed. :/

    Here are the translation notes that cover the whole thing, enjoy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...pli=1&sle=true

    Edit: Are you just screwing with me, or are you actually serious about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    The Q&A Part clearly doesn't cover everything discussed in the video... It was over an hour long... There were a great many things discussed in the video, and the translation I posted was one of them. Furthermore I witnessed this being said first had during the live video feed. :/

    Here are the translation notes that cover the whole thing, enjoy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...pli=1&sle=true
    OK.. so you say non-official Translation > official Translation. Obviously cant change your mind, so go ahead and trust outsider-Translations more.

    But we/you will see soon enough when the official translated Letter will come along.

    Edit: Are you just screwing with me, or are you actually serious about this?
    I will always stick with official Answers. You are sticking to a non-official Translation, which i have my doubts in, so why shouldnt i be serious? Nothing wrong to wait/stick with official statements over non-SE ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    OK.. so you say non-official Translation > official Translation. Obviously cant change your mind, so go ahead and trust outsider-Translations more.
    What's wrong with you? I didn't say non-official translation > official translation. The only "official" translation is of the questions and answers part of the video. They didn't translate the whole thing, and the part that I've referenced in this thread wasn't one of the Q&A. It was however clearly discussed for the world to see by Yoshida and Foxclon... Do you honestly believe an hour plus long interview can be condensed into a few paragraphs?

    Can't you just bow out gracefully, and admit being wrong instead of taking my words out of context for the sake of argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    What's wrong with you? I didn't say non-official translation > official translation.
    You do by saying that "outsider"-Translation is a fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    The only "official" translation is of the questions and answers part of the video. They didn't translate the whole thing, and the part that I've referenced in this thread wasn't one of the Q&A. It was however clearly discussed for the world to see by Yoshida and Foxclon... Do you honestly believe an hour plus long interview can be condensed into a few paragraphs?
    They translated the asked Question. They didnt translate it as a whole, but this will come within the next few days. Which will have the whole Session translated. Do you think the Dev's would leave out an important Part like that? And actually the Paragraph you are refering to is Question 23 and as you can see, it is totally different to your "Outsider"-Translation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Can't you just bow out gracefully, and admit being wrong instead of taking my words out of context for the sake of argument?
    Being wrong in what? Show me the official source of what you posted in your OP. If it will be the exact way in the translated Video, like you wrote it above then i would admit being wrong. But everything you do right now is wild speculation about a non-official translation.
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