[dev1008] About Jumping

[Aldwin]

1. You wouldn't be able to drop of a huge cliff. Wouldn't that actually be a benefit? You wouldn't need to worry about fall damage.

I rather like the idea of having to be careful of where and what I jump off of. I don't like the idea of not being able to walk off a ledge, or go to a certain area without something being there to block my way (not an invisible wall). The first time I loaded this game up in September, I started in LL and walked into the are where the market wards were supposed to be. I just kept walking but couldn't go any further, even though it looked like there was some type of tower ahead of me. I personally didn't enjoy that. If i can see it, and see the path to get there, at least put something in my way to stop me from getting there if the game doesn't want me there. Again, the restrictions are what I dislike.

[Kaedan]

I rather like the idea of having to be careful of where and what I jump off of. I don't like the idea of not being able to walk off a ledge, or go to a certain area without something being there to block my way (not an invisible wall). The first time I loaded this game up in September, I started in LL and walked into the are where the market wards were supposed to be. I just kept walking but couldn't go any further, even though it looked like there was some type of tower ahead of me. I personally didn't enjoy that. If i can see it, and see the path to get there, at least put something in my way to stop me from getting there if the game doesn't want me there. Again, the restrictions are what I dislike.

Fair enough. I don't agree, but at least I understand what it is you don't like.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

i played WoW as elves I have add and didn't spam jump I explored all of the game and still very rarely saw a jumper. Even if I did. my first thought ITS A VIDEO GAME. I ignored them. Or walked off. I don't care what ppl did. its their money. again everyone against jump is hating for sake of hating.
You guys really neeed to seek professional help for this issue you have.

compaired to a spam jumper you guys hating jump are more immature.

[Celyia]

>.> So some of you are arguing against adding a feature that could potentially add a lot to combat and exploration just because you're afraid that people may start spam jumping?

Yeah. Yeah. If we're going to limit evolution of the game just because of what people may or may not do, let's go ahead and remove all emotes because some people spam those, too.

[gifthorse]

>.> So some of you are arguing against adding a feature that could potentially add a lot to combat and exploration just because you're afraid that people may start spam jumping?

Yeah. Yeah. If we're going to limit evolution of the game just because of what people may or may not do, let's go ahead and remove all emotes because some people spam those, too.

I know right, It's just freaking jump, I mean honestly! Go play an early tomb raider game and say jumping has no role in exploration...

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

>.> So some of you are arguing against adding a feature that could potentially add a lot to combat and exploration just because you're afraid that people may start spam jumping?

Yeah. Yeah. If we're going to limit evolution of the game just because of what people may or may not do, let's go ahead and remove all emotes because some people spam those, too.

Exactly my points, thank you. So far i have not seen a valid reason that adds something new to the game. If there is no reason then we don't need jumping.

Which is it?

PS: Not getting around a small rock or up a ledge does not count as they have been put ther deliberately and can be removed without the need to add jumping.

[gifthorse]

I'm just sick of all the areas in FFXIV, and in FFXI, that mock me; the places you are never permitted to reach because the game doesn't believe in exploration.

[CeeKay]

Jumping is definitely not needed.

If anything, something like FFXIII.

I would be happier without it, but would still play if it happen to be added.

[Aldwin]

if area collision prevents you to go over that ledge, simply adding jump will not fix this "issue". You will jump and still not be able to jump over that ledge. Sorry to say that, but thinking that adding jump just because of this is just short-minded.
In case of you didn't notice, there ARE small ledges you cannot get over AND there are ledges that are exactly at the same height as the one you cannot get over but for those you can cross/climb them.

Actually it would. Adding a jump would make the game calculate a 3rd cordinate instead of just 2. Height. So your characters postion would not only be constantly being checked against collision with static ground and objects, but against their height as well.

And this is Final Fantasy, not WOW or clones alike. no Jump other than emote-auto-jump when walking on a ledge or something that could have been jumped please :/

You're right here though. If the game was wow then it would be successful and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[LittleLala]

Please no jumping >.> I can only imagine the amount of extra lag it will genorate as everyone spams it hopping around ever zone, even something like FFXIII I feel would degrade the whole Final Fantsy Online experience. Sure it's irritating sometimes getting stuck on a rock, but lets not throw realistic design completely out of the window; you cant jump in real life, its unlikely a character in this game would rather huff it up a dangerous-footing of rocks than just go 2 feet to the left and walk/run up a gentle slope. Adding a jump in any way other than for lancer as an offensive action would be taking the wrong direction, lets keep our feet on the ground ^^