[dev1008] About Jumping

[Elexia]

Jumping is useless unless it has an actual use and some kind of restriction on it. Autojumping over a tiny ledge? That's perfectly fine as it's the main reason people should want to jump.

When people claim "it will let us explore more", not unless the world is designed to be thoroughly explored which the current world of FFXIV is not explorable beyond what we already see and know of the layout. If I recall yoshida said the possible implementation is going to be a compromise between "free" and maybe something like an emote as he knows theres a lot of people for AND against it.

[Corrderio]

Jumping is useless unless it has an actual use and some kind of restriction on it. Autojumping over a tiny ledge? That's perfectly fine as it's the main reason people should want to jump.

When people claim "it will let us explore more", not unless the world is designed to be thoroughly explored which the current world of FFXIV is not explorable beyond what we already see and know of the layout. If I recall yoshida said the possible implementation is going to be a compromise between "free" and maybe something like an emote as he knows theres a lot of people for AND against it.

I'd also like to add to this by saying one of the reasons people want jump is to get over tiny ledges or other things, and from how it sounds SE fixed most of that issue with this patch. I haven't tested how effective it is, but my LS mates have said they can get over ledges now without having to walk around them.

[Zhyrios]

Are we forgetting a major system component here? The Stamina system? Make Jumping take a chunk of that away. simple. bunny-hopping solved. people certainly wont jump around while fighting with their stamina dropping heavily. make it take enough that at best you could perhaps do at most, 2 jumps after each other.
People say there's not enough world to be explorable by jumping. are we forgetting you can build on existing maps? why is was just this last update the dev team removed rocks from the world to make it easier to move.

Jumping has every right and possibility to be useful and increase immersion.
I also disagree with an ff13 jump feature. want to get to a camp with ledges in the way, set Auto-run and walk away and let your char deal with all the obstacles on their own while you go grab some snacks? no.

[Rane]

I'd love to see a free-form jump feature in FFXIV. It would add depth to the world while making it feel more tangible as well. Freedom of movement is a good thing. Yoshida has the right vision in this respect, and I'd like to see him test it out. Give people jump, wait a month, and I doubt that many players will be clamoring for it to be taken away.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Free Realms allows jumping at any time. Are people over using it to break the immersion? NO!

How long are you going to "investigate" things? AH, jump, chocobos how can so simple things be so damn hard for a big company like SE to do?! It's getting pretty ridiculous.

You asked us to wait for big changes coming soon, but that was before last Christmas! We HAVE waited and what have we been given in return for sticking with this game? Quest system that is an insult to any player's intelligence and a bake-sale sign for mobs instead of proper enemy placement to really address the issue of why one shotting happens so often in the first place.

you play/played free realms also? I do to now its on ps3. Fun game very nostalgic mini games. mario cart esk mini game ftw.

honestly I see like tons of ppl on this game. Barely anyone even jumps. And if your in a jump mood they have "playgrounds" for it. (which are kinda fun)

[Taruna-Aeon]

This is my first forum post ever, the reason I decided to post is due to this topic. D:

After the Ul'dah intro, I kinda feel the need of jumping...just being able to jump at all really...

freedom of movement... DENIED! ;_; B-But...I j-just..wanted to lift my feet from the ground..

Even if its not a normal jump feature, I would love to see something similar to the early FF jump features, those where it lets you jump in certain areas when you press a button/key....

Just jump of some kind...for starters... :/

[Dreamer]

I was thinking about this earlier, and realized there is a really great normalizer already built into the game: they could simply make it so that jumping drains your entire stamina bar, and you can't jump again until it refills.

I'd still rather have a Zelda-esque jumping system, however.

[Taruna-Aeon]

I was thinking about this earlier, and realized there is a really great normalizer already built into the game: they could simply make it so that jumping drains your entire stamina bar, and you can't jump again until it refills.

I'd still rather have a Zelda-esque jumping system, however.

Good idea! :O Unless they do something similar to that or whatever, I agree with you on the Zelda-esque jumping system. :>

[Kilta_Firelotus]

not to sound picky but.. zelda esk jumping kinda sucks. zelda esk jumps pretty much = run to cliff and you jump. what if I didn't want to jump? plus with camera angles you can get stuck in what is called a jump loop where you stuck jumping between 2 platforms.
and people can spam jump this btw...
but like I said you guys against stuff have no valod reason to hate the stuff you do.
And most of it is based on WoW. You hate WoW so much you will do anything to prevent anygame from turning into WoW.

WoW is a popular game... why wouldn't you want that? more players = more people to play with. the only thing bad is WoW is solo centric in some places.

which is why ffxiv turning into and not because of the game but the playerbase.

i suggest everyine against jump play a tomb raider game. we can have a game realm like that which does add challenge. minus the shooting of animals with guns and traps.

[Seif]

Exactly and this would just ruin the Atmosphere.
I have no Problems with jumping but it should be Automatic like FFXIII.

So explain to me why everybody isn't jumping all the time in Free Realms? Jump is the main action button but nobody uses it until they need to. And that game is designed for kids! Terrified of change much?