[dev1008] About Jumping

[Dromox]

Let me try and help clear this up. I think what Alexzander and Jennestia (Hey! I think I got a fan group now! lol) are basically saying that jump should be used as a simple automatic funtion when the need arises to jump. It's basically like the Auto-Attack from XI when Jennestia is talking about the A.I. By this I mean that even though your character is attacking, you're not giving direct commands other than to attack and/or disengage.

Now to just go a little more into her post and using that example I just said, what she means is that the A.I. will automatically jump when the need arises to jump. Hope this clears it up for you.

I guess her post does make more sense when explained like that. However, I would still like to control my own character, I don't really see why that's a bad thing. I would rather not have my character automatically jump up/down a cliff simply because I walked to closely to it and triggered that response in the game. Freedom!!

[Kimahri]

I guess her post does make more sense when explained like that. However, I would still like to control my own character, I don't really see why that's a bad thing. I would rather not have my character automatically jump up/down a cliff simply because I walked to closely to it and triggered that response in the game. Freedom!!

Haha! Well whoever posted earlier that you can excercise that jump action by hitting the menu button and clicking on the jump button. You know where you can click Aetheryte, Check, Invite, etc. How would that work out for you? That way it's still in there, you're able to do it manually in a sense, and it doesn't get in the way of others who don't want it implemented simply because it might be a minor annoyance?

[Dromox]

Haha! Well whoever posted earlier that you can excercise that jump action by hitting the menu button and clicking on the jump button. You know where you can click Aetheryte, Check, Invite, etc. How would that work out for you? That way it's still in there, you're able to do it manually in a sense, and it doesn't get in the way of others who don't want it implemented simply because it might be a minor annoyance?

Aetheryte, Check, Invite are completely different then jumping, swimming, flying etc. Walking up and putting out your hand and "touching" and Aetheryte seems to serve only an aesthetic function at best, check and invite and something you don't interact at all doing. However, being able to simply jump grands me access to having the OPTION, to over come this incline, to descend this cliff and doing all that on MY terms is infinitely better then being regulated by certain "checkpoints" for that action.

Explain to me how that would be a minor annoyance? Just because WoW has the same feature doesn't mean the game is going to descend to the same childish mindset, here I thought the FF players were a much more mature, refined MMO community and could handle something as simple as being able to untethered jumping. my mistake! Keep your feet on the ground friend, don't want to upset the people RP'ing in say with my jumping. :P

[Kimahri]

Aetheryte, Check, Invite are completely different then jumping, swimming, flying etc. Walking up and putting out your hand and "touching" and Aetheryte seems to serve only an aesthetic function at best, check and invite and something you don't interact at all doing. However, being able to simply jump grands me access to having the OPTION, to over come this incline, to descend this cliff and doing all that on MY terms is infinitely better then being regulated by certain "checkpoints" for that action.

Explain to me how that would be a minor annoyance? Just because WoW has the same feature doesn't mean the game is going to descend to the same childish mindset, here I thought the FF players were a much more mature, refined MMO community and could handle something as simple as being able to untethered jumping. my mistake! Keep your feet on the ground friend, don't want to upset the people RP'ing in say with my jumping. :P

Hahaha! Well here's what I would mean as far as examples I could list.

As you know there are filters for letting me filter out all the junk I don't want to see in my chat board. Such as /emote. There will be no filter for when I see a guy/girl just jumping for no reason while waiting for Behest, Mission, Quest, Linkshell event, etc.

Secondly what I think would be a reason is that the Development Team has come around saying that they would later on down the road implement back into FFXIV PvP....Now if you've played Halo........You know for darn sure they're going to be hopping around like jack rabbits just to piss you off.

Mostly all in all I wouldn't have a problem with this being an annoyance, except for that PvP example. However I can see others having a problem with this as I tend to see a lot of people with impatience as they play this game. For example I was playing Behest and people wouldn't stop fighting so we could invite the last guy, so he got pissed and slapped on his 50 THM and decimated the rest of the Behest mobs....Then they were annoyed over him because they couldn't wait 3 seconds to invite him in the first place!.........

See what I mean? lol This list I'm sure could add a couple more reasons to why people wouldn't want it. I'm just listing those I know. Wouldn't you agree that it's slightly annoying?

[Rawry]

watching someone jump does not = annoying.
ppl jumping around in pvp = smart... Not annoying to anyone whos good at pvp. I guess i can see why this would annoy the FF care bears tho.

[Dromox]

Hahaha! Well here's what I would mean as far as examples I could list.

As you know there are filters for letting me filter out all the junk I don't want to see in my chat board. Such as /emote. There will be no filter for when I see a guy/girl just jumping for no reason while waiting for Behest, Mission, Quest, Linkshell event, etc.

Secondly what I think would be a reason is that the Development Team has come around saying that they would later on down the road implement back into FFXIV PvP....Now if you've played Halo........You know for darn sure they're going to be hopping around like jack rabbits just to piss you off.

Mostly all in all I wouldn't have a problem with this being an annoyance, except for that PvP example. However I can see others having a problem with this as I tend to see a lot of people with impatience as they play this game. For example I was playing Behest and people wouldn't stop fighting so we could invite the last guy, so he got pissed and slapped on his 50 THM and decimated the rest of the Behest mobs....Then they were annoyed over him because they couldn't wait 3 seconds to invite him in the first place!.........

See what I mean? lol This list I'm sure could add a couple more reasons to why people wouldn't want it. I'm just listing those I know. Wouldn't you agree that it's slightly annoying?

I don't really follow, but by your example with the behest, honestly if you are going to throw a tantrum over something as simple as that you should really reevaluate so of your life choices and probably seek help. PvP really isn't the place to be jumping anyways, FFXIV isn't a FPS, FFXIV however is a fantasy MMO, and being fantasy should allow its players some freedoms! FFXIV: Fun, Freedom, XIV!!!

[Kimahri]

I don't really follow, but by your example with the behest, honestly if you are going to throw a tantrum over something as simple as that you should really reevaluate so of your life choices and probably seek help. PvP really isn't the place to be jumping anyways, FFXIV isn't a FPS, FFXIV however is a fantasy MMO, and being fantasy should allow its players some freedoms! FFXIV: Fun, Freedom, XIV!!!

I guess in a way you're right. To hell with it. Add the damn feature. However if I see twenty people jumping, I will kick your ***, Dromax. Hahaha!

I still wouldn't mind adding more features like this to add more sense of exploration though. Climbing mountains, swimming in the sea, and hell maybe even flying.

Edit: And even though jumping isn't the place when in PvP. I guarantee you people will jump around you while you're fighting. Oh well though....Never cared for PvP anyway!

[Hunidew]

I think jumping would be really cool. I agree with Rowyne on post #118 and have complete confidence that the ffxiv team would make it enjoyable for everyone.