[dev1008] About Jumping

[gifthorse]

>.> So some of you are arguing against adding a feature that could potentially add a lot to combat and exploration just because you're afraid that people may start spam jumping?

Yeah. Yeah. If we're going to limit evolution of the game just because of what people may or may not do, let's go ahead and remove all emotes because some people spam those, too.

I know right, It's just freaking jump, I mean honestly! Go play an early tomb raider game and say jumping has no role in exploration...

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

actually in WoW and this was even on a g4 thing a year ago. Jump in WoW got you to hidden places in the game. For perfect world international there was a quest that required you to know how to jump as they had tons of locations.

And skyrant
that whole fence thing is not even true. Fences are just for decor. Not to keep you out of something. I hated rollanberry feilds because of those fences getting around them was a pain. And more so in wings of the goddess cuz of the high lvl qudev, which kill lvl 75s easily. blocked the only route around them. if I had the choice between jumping over a fence or getting attacked by something and dieing... Ima jump over the fence.

And pretty much your whole post is one invalid rant that really just scream hating just to hate.

Where is the hate?

I was asking for a real reason to have jumping, one that adds something to the game (again take Aion as a reference here). A legit question i think.

I was then making an argument with 3 points why jumping is not justified because something is in the way, seeing as that something has been put in the way for a reason and could you jump it i would not be put there in the first place. Rather have them remove it (or let us walk through/up fences/ledges) than adding jumping.

Now, i apologize if you feel hated by this, i really did not mean to insult you or hurt your feelings. Maybe you can elaborate why we need jumping and we could call this a discussion rather than you throwing words like hate around.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

>.> So some of you are arguing against adding a feature that could potentially add a lot to combat and exploration just because you're afraid that people may start spam jumping?

Yeah. Yeah. If we're going to limit evolution of the game just because of what people may or may not do, let's go ahead and remove all emotes because some people spam those, too.

Exactly my points, thank you. So far i have not seen a valid reason that adds something new to the game. If there is no reason then we don't need jumping.

Which is it?

PS: Not getting around a small rock or up a ledge does not count as they have been put ther deliberately and can be removed without the need to add jumping.

[gifthorse]

I'm just sick of all the areas in FFXIV, and in FFXI, that mock me; the places you are never permitted to reach because the game doesn't believe in exploration.

[Nephera]

Where is the hate?

I was asking for a real reason to have jumping, one that adds something to the game (again take Aion as a reference here). A legit question i think.

I was then making an argument with 3 points why jumping is not justified because something is in the way, seeing as that something has been put in the way for a reason and could you jump it i would not be put there in the first place. Rather have them remove it (or let us walk through/up fences/ledges) than adding jumping.

Now, i apologize if you feel hated by this, i really did not mean to insult you or hurt your feelings. Maybe you can elaborate why we need jumping and we could call this a discussion rather than you throwing words like hate around.

due to the copy pasted terrain the little ledges that "we should just go around" are about every five feet.

[CeeKay]

Jumping is definitely not needed.

If anything, something like FFXIII.

I would be happier without it, but would still play if it happen to be added.

[PandaTaru]

Actually, yes there is. There are tons of things. For example, not being able to get over a knee-high ledge.

Bunny hoppers are actually not all that common in other MMOs, anyway, and even when you do see them they're super easy to ignore.

if area collision prevents you to go over that ledge, simply adding jump will not fix this "issue". You will jump and still not be able to jump over that ledge. Sorry to say that, but thinking that adding jump just because of this is just short-minded.
In case of you didn't notice, there ARE small ledges you cannot get over AND there are ledges that are exactly at the same height as the one you cannot get over but for those you can cross/climb them.


And this is Final Fantasy, not WOW or clones alike. no Jump other than emote-auto-jump when walking on a ledge or something that could have been jumped please :/

[Aldwin]

if area collision prevents you to go over that ledge, simply adding jump will not fix this "issue". You will jump and still not be able to jump over that ledge. Sorry to say that, but thinking that adding jump just because of this is just short-minded.
In case of you didn't notice, there ARE small ledges you cannot get over AND there are ledges that are exactly at the same height as the one you cannot get over but for those you can cross/climb them.

Actually it would. Adding a jump would make the game calculate a 3rd cordinate instead of just 2. Height. So your characters postion would not only be constantly being checked against collision with static ground and objects, but against their height as well.

And this is Final Fantasy, not WOW or clones alike. no Jump other than emote-auto-jump when walking on a ledge or something that could have been jumped please :/

You're right here though. If the game was wow then it would be successful and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[LittleLala]

Please no jumping >.> I can only imagine the amount of extra lag it will genorate as everyone spams it hopping around ever zone, even something like FFXIII I feel would degrade the whole Final Fantsy Online experience. Sure it's irritating sometimes getting stuck on a rock, but lets not throw realistic design completely out of the window; you cant jump in real life, its unlikely a character in this game would rather huff it up a dangerous-footing of rocks than just go 2 feet to the left and walk/run up a gentle slope. Adding a jump in any way other than for lancer as an offensive action would be taking the wrong direction, lets keep our feet on the ground ^^

[Aldwin]

you cant jump in real life

The best counter argument against jumping I've seen so far.