[dev1008] About Jumping

[Linkurrra]

Are we forgetting a major system component here? The Stamina system? Make Jumping take a chunk of that away. simple. bunny-hopping solved. people certainly wont jump around while fighting with their stamina dropping heavily. make it take enough that at best you could perhaps do at most, 2 jumps after each other.
People say there's not enough world to be explorable by jumping. are we forgetting you can build on existing maps? why is was just this last update the dev team removed rocks from the world to make it easier to move.

Jumping has every right and possibility to be useful and increase immersion.
I also disagree with an ff13 jump feature. want to get to a camp with ledges in the way, set Auto-run and walk away and let your char deal with all the obstacles on their own while you go grab some snacks? no.

Boy thats distilliling the FFXIII feature down to it's bare essentials. It's unlikely there would be a series of jumPs lined up to achieve an autorun jump like you are saying.

I am for it simply for the ability to have more acrobatic jumps that are unique to the situation. Like somebody mentioned, the Miq'ote in Ul'dah animation. Backflips would be fun to see in game. They could also make individual animations per race so that each race would look correct when jumping. Because a Roegedyn doing backflips would just look silly.

[Zhyrios]

Boy thats distilliling the FFXIII feature down to it's bare essentials. It's unlikely there would be a series of jumPs lined up to achieve an autorun jump like you are saying.

I am for it simply for the ability to have more acrobatic jumps that are unique to the situation. Like somebody mentioned, the Miq'ote in Ul'dah animation. Backflips would be fun to see in game. They could also make individual animations per race so that each race would look correct when jumping. Because a Roegedyn doing backflips would just look silly.

if they did add jump it would be motion captured, just like the rest of the game's animations. so dont count on seeing flips and spins lol. it'd also have weight, and realism, jumps would be slow. hardly distracting. There would be delay, your character would crouch slighty, jump, and then land, and get their footing and balance back. this is not like WoW's "BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING" not only the jumps would take longer to perform, they wont be spammable, and most likely be tied to the stamina bar.

[Linkurrra]

if they did add jump it would be motion captured, just like the rest of the game's animations. so dont count on seeing flips and spins lol. it'd also have weight, and realism, jumps would be slow. hardly distracting. There would be delay, your character would crouch slighty, jump, and then land, and get their footing and balance back. this is not like WoW's "BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING" not only the jumps would take longer to perform, they wont be spammable, and most likely be tied to the stamina bar.

Well I appreciate the fact that Square-Enix does MoCap fir their animations. It does add a certain level of polish to their animations. On that note they could still do some nice backflips and twists with MoCap by hooking the actor up to a wire harness.

Arrow Helix for Archer has a nice jumping animation that involves a mid air flip. Soni don't think it is out of the question for them to add jumps like this in game. It would be interesting to see some quests that vary in elevation by having you jump up to a ledge. It would be a nice break from the norm and make for some more interesting quests.

[Rane]

I'd love to see a free-form jump feature in FFXIV. It would add depth to the world while making it feel more tangible as well. Freedom of movement is a good thing. Yoshida has the right vision in this respect, and I'd like to see him test it out. Give people jump, wait a month, and I doubt that many players will be clamoring for it to be taken away.

[Dreamer]

I was thinking about this earlier, and realized there is a really great normalizer already built into the game: they could simply make it so that jumping drains your entire stamina bar, and you can't jump again until it refills.

I'd still rather have a Zelda-esque jumping system, however.

[Taruna-Aeon]

I was thinking about this earlier, and realized there is a really great normalizer already built into the game: they could simply make it so that jumping drains your entire stamina bar, and you can't jump again until it refills.

I'd still rather have a Zelda-esque jumping system, however.

Good idea! :O Unless they do something similar to that or whatever, I agree with you on the Zelda-esque jumping system. :>

[Kilta_Firelotus]

not to sound picky but.. zelda esk jumping kinda sucks. zelda esk jumps pretty much = run to cliff and you jump. what if I didn't want to jump? plus with camera angles you can get stuck in what is called a jump loop where you stuck jumping between 2 platforms.
and people can spam jump this btw...
but like I said you guys against stuff have no valod reason to hate the stuff you do.
And most of it is based on WoW. You hate WoW so much you will do anything to prevent anygame from turning into WoW.

WoW is a popular game... why wouldn't you want that? more players = more people to play with. the only thing bad is WoW is solo centric in some places.

which is why ffxiv turning into and not because of the game but the playerbase.

i suggest everyine against jump play a tomb raider game. we can have a game realm like that which does add challenge. minus the shooting of animals with guns and traps.

[Nabiri]

Free-jumping would kill the atmosphere of the game and take the "Final Fantasy" out of FFXIV.
I would hate to see everyone hopping around like frogs everywhere like some other games..

[Nakiamiie]

Free-jumping would kill the atmosphere of the game and take the "Final Fantasy" out of FFXIV.
I would hate to see everyone hopping around like frogs everywhere like some other games..

Immature frogs jumping everywhere aside, would that bother you THAT much to have free jumping?

I, personally, would be very pleased to experience a free jumping feature in Final Fantasy XIV. I don't feel like it would kill the Final Fantasy atmosphere, Final Fantasy is not Final Fantasy because you can't jump. Jumping has been seen in many previous Final Fantasy, in Final Fantasy VII's movie, and I believe would be a great new addition to Final Fantasy XIV. Of course, there was no free jumping before, but Final Fantasy is also about adding new things with each new titles. I feel it is time free jumping comes into Final Fantasy. And, on a final note, the traditional "non-jumping" design of old Final Fantasy was partly due to technology limitations (that's why then, even in Final Fantasy 1, jumping is in cut-scenes).

EDIT: Don't be mistaken, I, too, dislike immature jumping frogs. However, I much prefer dealing with these frogs than having shackles at my feet preventing more freedom in the game. Plus, I doubt we'll see many immature frogs in FFXIV, it is not open world PVP like WoW (people keep jumping mainly to evade other player's attacks).

[gifthorse]

Free-jumping would kill the atmosphere of the game and take the "Final Fantasy" out of FFXIV.
I would hate to see everyone hopping around like frogs everywhere like some other games..

LOL, you never watched advent children obvz