[dev1008] About Jumping

[Shikyo]

this is a stupid freakin topic i hate to even post on it but damn jumping is the least of this games problems move to the job system threads for god sake =/ at the moment ppl are not working on there plds or whm but there pugalancherconthaumaroniac the class system needs to be fixed bad ... just to say it though i would rather not see jumping in the game being able to drop of small drops or climb up small objects fine but just all out jumping is not needed at all

[Llan]

See? This is exactly what I said it comes down to. Everybody posting their idea's and not really caring about who thinks different. How about this. You say to implement it or not, and then let the professionals handle the rest? I'm sure that they've had more than enough information with 850 posts about the topic. Not to mention their respective list of references when it comes to hands-on experience in producing best seller video games.

I think they got the picture, grasshopper. Go jump on another thread leaf and make noise now.

"Discussion" ,that is present in this Forum's title, means I can give my opinion and you can live with it my friend. I'm sorry but I'm not holding my ideas back because you feel like I should.

They are, yes, professionals, but they are far from knowing everything. Each persons idea is valid, each, may or may not, contribute with the main topic of this thread. But you can not judge peoples Ideas because you feel like doing so.

I would also add that people Flooding about this thread's relevance will make its situation worse.

Regards,
Llan Hana.

[Nephera]

Although to be fair every good action or rpg game in existence has jumping mechanics. Games like Metal Gear Solid 4, Demon's Souls and Resident Evil 5 come to mind. You just can't build a good game if there isn't jumping.

There's actually a few platforming parts of demon's souls, and even a way to get to Ostrava early using your roll to get over a wall, whereupon he praises you with "Nice jump"

but again these are games where the player typically doesnt feel that he needs a jump by design, the fact that people are asking one means that they failed in that respect.

[Kimahri]

"Discussion" ,that is present in this Forum's title, means I can give my opinion and you can live with it my friend. I'm sorry but I'm not holding my ideas back because you feel like I should.

They are, yes, professionals, but they are far from knowing everything. Each persons idea is valid, each, may or may not, contribute with the main topic of this thread. But you can not judge peoples Ideas because you feel like doing so.

I would also add that people Flooding about this thread's relevance will make its situation worse.

Regards,
Llan Hana.

Seriously? This is exactly what the third sentence in my paragraph was clearly stating. State your opinion, then leave it at that. After now going on 855 threads there's really nothing new that you can discuss that's of really any importance. We've touched base on every nook and cranny this thread has to offer. I do not need you to ramble on about your opinion now. You've stated it clearly. I think we've got this discussion over with. Let's move on.

There are far more pressing matters over class diversity and in game mechanics. Go read some of the threads there and devote your time to these topics. I highly doubt you can say anything new that already hasn't come up, so why keep it up? Go make a difference somewhere else of more importance. I already accepted the fact they're going to implement this regardless of what people think. What I don't know is how they will do it. But really? Don't care. I'll play regardless.

However. I will not continue to play if the current armoury system and classes go unchanged. Stop posting now on this thread. Go see or make a thread with your idea on how to improve these key elements in the game that need fixing. I'll lead by example. I've already made my opinion heard in this thread, so I'll leave and never.....Ever.....Post in this thread again. Goodbye.

[Shikyo]

Is this really one of the top priorities of the devo team atm? O.o; why is this listed as one of the latest coments on the game by the devo team..... this weighs in so lightly in the overall view of all the problems that need to be addressed.....

REALLY guy come on talk about ignoring the 900lb gorilla in the room, how about adressing the threads about the more pressing issues Mr. Yoshida, the battle system....battle regi's are aweful(ws chains work), auto attack = win, Or maybe the thread about the class seperation and addition of traditional classes (not just the names) and the topic about drop kicking the armory system the mismash hybrid system is just so broken, hhmmm or maybe the rank favored equipment system. COME ON! The complete lack of content, I actually learned to love crafting but this game goes extreme with making a absolute necessity to pass time. Can we maybe put jumping on the back burner and handle the that big snarling beast standing over there snaking on the players patience? PLEASE! thank you XD

Kimahri is right 100%, but should aim that post at the developement team, cause a beast named realissue said he couldnt even get an appointment with them... if u have a problem with my post send me some rotten apples in my in game mailbox... in my moghouse on rabanastre server... i'll grab a chocobo and head there to check the box as soon as my party finishes this exp chain...

[Jennestia]

Is this really one of the top priorities of the devo team atm? O.o; why is this listed as one of the latest coments on the game by the devo team..... this weighs in so lightly in the overall view of all the problems that need to be addressed..... REALLY guy come on talk about ignoring the 400lb gorilla in the room, how about adressing the threads about the more pressing issues Mr. Yoshida, the battle system....battle regi's are aweful(ws chains work), auto attack = win, Or maybe the thread about the class seperation and addition of traditional classes (not just the names) and the topic about drop kicking the armory system the mismash hybrid system is just so broken, hhmmm or maybe the rank favored equipment system. COME ON! The complete lack of content, I actually learned to love crafting but this game goes extreme with making a absolute necessity to pass time. Can we maybe put jumping on the back burner and handle the that big snarling beast standing over there snaking on the players patience? PLEASE! thank you XD
Kimahri is right 100%, but should aim that post at the developement team.

It's not a to priority -- it's just one of the most talked about features therefore Yoshida gave his thoughts on it, and it's actually fairly low priority.

[Quoc]

They should have rated this game "M" for mature because I haven't seen this kind of arguing since my "free MMO" days. There really is no point in arguing. There's been over 80+ pages of just pointless bickering back and forth. There is no persuasion over the internet, you just can't. If someone wants to jump, they want to jump, you can't flame and troll them out of their opinion. Both sides have clearly and repeatedly stated their thoughts and feelings, posting another page of insults won't do anyone any good. If anything, I think a poll or a survey would quickly end this issue. From my point of view, jumping is not worthy of consideration or implementation because there really is no real reason to have it. Just picture walking through Gridania and seeing random players sitting on top of buildings and roof tops, it takes away from the atmosphere and mood. I want to admire XIV's beauty, not stare at some kid trying to jump into a pond or into a tree. Theres a reason why Final Fantasy never had a free user input "jump" feature. And they ones they did implement were pointless. The auto jump functions were rather annoying seeing as how I would sometimes randomly jump backwards instead of jumping forwards. I apologize if someone before me has already posted this exact response, I just didn't feel like sorting through 80+ pages of junk.

[BadJoeRed]

There really is no point in arguing. There's been over 80+ pages of just pointless bickering back and forth. There is no persuasion over the internet, you just can't. Both sides have clearly and repeatedly stated their thoughts and feelings, posting another page of insults won't do anyone any good.

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From my point of view, jumping is not worthy of consideration or implementation because there really is no real reason to have it. Just picture walking through Gridania and seeing random players sitting on top of buildings and roof tops, it takes away from the atmosphere and mood. I want to admire XIV's beauty, not stare at some kid trying to jump into a pond or into a tree. Theres a reason why Final Fantasy never had a free user input "jump" feature. And they ones they did implement were pointless. The auto jump functions were rather annoying seeing as how I would sometimes randomly jump backwards instead of jumping forwards...

lol, just giving you a hard time, it reminded me of this infamous statement:

"See, I never did things just to do them, cmon, I mean, what am I gonna do, just all of a suddon, just jump up and grind my feet on somebody's couch, like its... like its.. you know somethin to do? C'mon, I got a little more sense than that."

***Pause*** 2 seconds later

"Yeah I remember grindin my feet on Eddie's couch"

(Dave Chappelle skit of Charlie Murphy's True hollywood stories with Rick James)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1dBstAIYtQ

[Shikyo]

lmao dude classic tyvm for that, love chaple. i thought these forums where made for ppl to express there opinions rather others think they are wrong or right, pos or neg the ppl that have the most to gain or loose from this game is the the team at SE that jobs depend on the sucess or failure of this game from a buisness point of view i would want to hear it all good&bad, sort through it all and make a decision on what will be the best course of action, so i can please the players that will be paying and make my company happy they have me at the helm, no?

[Shikyo]

It's not a to priority -- it's just one of the most talked about features therefore Yoshida gave his thoughts on it, and it's actually fairly low priority.

ummm i understand this very well O.o; my point is the latest comments made should be about the most pressing matters not jumping. If i were the HNiC(if u dont know what hnic is ask a black dude =P) of this game's improvement i wouldnt waste my time or press the paitence of the real players that wanna see real improvements by not commenting on the real issues and commenting on the lesser problems, that was my point you obviously swung and missed on what i was saying, choke up a little on the next pitch ^^;