[dev1008] About Jumping

[Nephera]

No it won't. Guess what you don't need while in a town. Stamina. So no matter what, people have no reason to conserve stamina and will jump whenever possible. And even if players are given the ability to jump once a minute, or two minutes, or three minutes, or however many minutes, it will still annoy people. Do you know why? Because bunny hopping isn't what annoys you, jumping for no reason is what annoys you. Would it annoy you if a different people jumped one after another in a crowd of players where you grab leves? Yes.

Because you are psychic and know the motivation behind everyone's jump.

[RabidSquirrel]

Because you are psychic and know the motivation behind everyone's jump.

Your sentence doesn't even make sense compared to what I said. "Because you are psychic and know what annoys people more than they do" would have made more sense. Bunny hopping is a subset of action derived from jumping for no reason. The only situations where bunny hopping is called for is when kiting enemies like hunters do in WoW or trying to disorient another player in PvP. All I'm getting at is that if you're annoyed with bunny hopping, you'll be annoyed no matter what if jumping is introduced into the game, unless it is context sensitive jumping.

But on a side note. I do know motivation behind someone's jump. They jump because they have to, or they jump because they don't have to. So I guess I am psychic. I hope I blew your mind.

[Xor]

I have read most of the posts...and that's a lot. There are reasons to agree and disagree with adding a jump feature. If someone jumping about in a video game annoys you to the point of anger, make an appointment with a shrink. Adding jump to this game would enhance quite a few different areas of game play. The biggest area would be the cut down on travel times in some cases where you "slide" down a small ledge but cannot get back up it and have to run for 10-15 minutes locating an access point.

[Jennestia]

Adding jump to this game would enhance quite a few different areas of game play.

Only if the game is designed for it, which XIV is not so it won't necessarily enhance gameplay or let us explore places normally unreachable since everything beyond our paths is "solid" or doesn't exist.

The biggest area would be the cut down on travel times in some cases where you "slide" down a small ledge but cannot get back up it

Well technically if you slide off of the side of a steep cliff face you shouldn't be able to jump back up it xD. Hopping over small ledges or gaps automatically would be good though.

[Dreamer]

I just wanted to add another voice calling for FF13/Zelda-style jumping. I can do without the hordes of people who seem to be unable to take their fingers off the jump button in certain games that shall not be mentioned.

[Cadaceus]

Just as a side comment to those who say Lalafell or Roegadyn would look silly jumping or something of the sort, I would like to direct your attention to Dissidia: Final Fantasy and Shantotto, a notable Taru who jumps and flips about the sky like she lived there. Granted this is an extreme example but simple jumps as such would not be completely outside the realm of belief. There are even bulkier characters who do so such as Garland, or Gabranth.

[Alhanelem]

From what I can tell, I along with many others hold the opinion that having a designated "jump button" that you could use at any time in this game would be rather obnoxious.

Fromt he very original post- having a jump button isn't obnoxious. The person using it to be immature is what's obnoxious. He or she finds him/herself on lots of blacklists and gets ignored by others quickly. Problem solves itself

I've said it just about anywhere this debate has come up- The fact that a couple people will act like morons if given the chance is not a reason not to have a feature.

Now i'm not saying this should be considered important, or a priority at all. I'm just speaking out against the counterargument of "If we let people jump, people will jump around for no reason and act like idiots." All you have to do is be the one that doesn't do that, and there's no problem.

The implementation of a jump feature will frustrate those who opposed it because they will feel their opinions are somehow worth less than supporters, and will split supporters into two groups: those who are happy with how it was done, and those who are not

EVERY SINGLE FEATURE OR ISSUE without 100% unanimous support will have this problem. Does that mean that no change should ever be made without 100% total consensus? No.
Beyond this statement, I fully agree with HunkaMunka's post.

[Soukyuu]

oh please.... don't start the jump vs no jump thing all over again...

[Boricua]

I could only accept ledge-activated jumps like Zelda or FFXIII, otherwise it would become overused and obnoxious.

[Linkurrra]

I could only accept ledge-activated jumps like Zelda or FFXIII, otherwise it would become overused and obnoxious.

This is what I have been saying all along. Have jumping like FFXIII where there are highlighted hotspots to indicte an action or jump. It would make the XIV more interactive and easier to understand.

Anti-jump ppl would not have to have their fears realized by everyone jumping around obnoxiously. and Pro-jump ppl would get there new interactive abilities.

No you still can't jump anywhere,but it can be implemented in a controlled manner. This is good from a development standpoint because it can be tested easily and have less bugs in stake thst was not designed to have jumping in it in the first place.

Besides in patch 1.17 they made it so that low-Lying objects on the ground no longer cause collision. So those rocks pro-jumpers use is no longer an excuse now! Lol but yes those fences at Aeteryte points still force you to go around them instead of jumping over them. It's progress not perfection! ^_^