[dev1008] About Jumping

[Rawry]

i have been reading this thread on and off for the past couple of hours and i have seen kimarhi come up with examples to explain his views and other people have explained their views and i must say that you are hindering this discussion because i have yet to see a good example from you. i think it shouldnt be put in game since all everyone is doing is complaining about it and not accepting both sides of a discussion. this has become a fight over nothing and only one i now see still trying to start up stuff is this rawry guy and i think he should be banned from this discussion if he still keeps this up.

Um what can i say that I havn't already said? Ive stated why I would like them to implement a free jump feature. I think that being able to Jump up, climb over, scale or perhaps pole vault over a hill or obstacle would be much faster and and easier then having to walk 5 minutes around it. Ive also stated that to me being able to jump makes me feel less restricted... not to mention it just looks cool. Now if you don't agree with me thats perfectly fine. That is your opinion. But to imply that i was/am the only one keeping this going is crap. This was never a debate for me.. I could care less what you guys think of my opinion. Sorry to say..but you guys arnt the Devs.

[Dromox]

Um what can i say that I havn't already said? Ive stated why I want them to put implement a free jump feature. I think that being able to Jump up, climb over, scale or perhaps pole vault over a hill or obstacle would be much faster and or easier then having to walk 5 minutes around it. Ive also stated that to me being able to jump makes me feel less restricted not to mention it looks cool. Now if you don't agree with me perfectly fine. That your opinion. But to imply that i was/am the only one keeping this going is crap. This was never a debate for me.. I could care less what you guys think of my opinion. Sorry to say..but you guys arnt the Devs.

I don't understand why people thing that character freedom is a bad thing. Oh right, because WoW has a jump feature that has to be why it's such a terrible idea. I find not being able to jump much more unrealistic then being able to jump, what's next running comes with a fatigue bar and after ten minutes of running I have to walk to rest of the way to my destination?

Seriously, there's alot of ways mentioned in this very topic that would add to the DEPTH to the game world with simple features such as jumping, even jumping barley a foot off the ground would be better then being rooted to the terrain.

[Issachar]

this has become a fight over nothing and only one i now see still trying to start up stuff is this rawry guy and i think he should be banned from this discussion if he still keeps this up.

Seconding this.

[Rawry]

Seconding this.

why? because I didn't agree with you and showed you the same attitude you showed me?
I'm heart broken.

[Sehro]

its should be like ffXIII,you see a mark on the ground you open the menu and jump will apear.

[Jennestia]

its should be like ffXIII,you see a mark on the ground you open the menu and jump will apear.

Well due to the fact both of these games are on the same Engine, I'd say automatic jumping/climbing etc would do well. People cite immersion, which I do love in my games and nothing is more immersive than knowing your character is "smart enough" to overcome obstacles of that nature without needing to be told to -- platforming is the only other reason to really have it, ala Ys gameplay.

[Dromox]

Well due to the fact both of these games are on the same Engine, I'd say automatic jumping/climbing etc would do well. People cite immersion, which I do love in my games and nothing is more immersive than knowing your character is "smart enough" to overcome obstacles of that nature without needing to be told to -- platforming is the only other reason to really have it, ala Ys gameplay.

Kinda contradictory, at first you want your character limited to only jumping/climbing/interacting with the game world while being told to do so at certain points and certain points only(FFXIII "jump") and then you want to believe your character is smart enough to overcome challenges within the environment without being told, odd.

Yes, it's the same Crystal Tools as FFXIII doesn't mean that SE has to limit themselves based on what they did in the past with FFXIII, or hell even FFXI, give the players freedom! If you want to jump you should be able to if you don't want to don't, simple!

[Rawry]

Kinda contradictory, at first you want your character limited to only jumping/climbing/interacting with the game world while being told to do so at certain points and certain points only(FFXIII "jump") and then you want to believe your character is smart enough to overcome challenges within the environment without being told, odd.

Yes, it's the same Crystal Tools as FFXIII doesn't mean that SE has to limit themselves based on what they did in the past with FFXIII, or hell even FFXI, give the players freedom! If you want to jump you should be able to if you don't want to don't, simple!

what about the ppl that dont wish to SEE jumping? All feet must stay on the ground!! always!!!!!

[Dromox]

what about the ppl that dont wish to SEE jumping? All feet must stay on the ground!! always!!!!!

Just shut your eyes then and don't look at the screen.

[Jennestia]

Kinda contradictory, at first you want your character limited to only jumping/climbing/interacting with the game world while being told to do so at certain points and certain points only(FFXIII "jump") and then you want to believe your character is smart enough to overcome challenges within the environment without being told, odd.

It's not contradictory -- you're just reading far too much into it because there's nothing contradictory about saying your character is smart enough to get around obstacles automatically because the player isn't telling the character to, the A.I programming is telling it to which is what automation means.