[dev1008] About Jumping

[Rawry]

Here. Let me go ahead and explain this to you as simply as I can so you'll understand!

Map Collision(Also called Collision Detection) is where the UI automatically see's an obstacle(Such as a Fence, Fall, or Hill)
and execute's an automatic response. (Scaling the fence, Slide down to the lower plain, and Leap up the small hill)

Any questions?

P.S. Way to go, by the way. You were able to lay some sarcasm down on your last thread.....Very humorous. I had to use the restroom before I pissed myself over laughing at your stupidity. Hahahaha!

Edit: Oh. And you can keep the cattle prod. I don't want it back after where you've shoved it.

oh why thank you professor douche bag! that was really nice of you. Now Focant and I can get back to our conversation. Feel free to screw off, back into bitter obscurity ya nerd raging spazz.

p.s. if thats how you feel about your orifices, ya may wanna look into an enema.

[Rawry]

This Kimahri guy is entertaining. In a dog-that-keeps-running-into-the-glass-door kinda way.

But in all seriousness, just make a scripted hop, leap, or jump at designated locations, such as a small flaw/crack in the ground (like Mor Dhona). Manual jumping is lame, and so is fence-hopping. I liked FF13's jump mechanic, except that the jumps were huge. Tone those down and it works out.

Unfortunately I disagree. Id like to be able to chose where I can jump, not run around to random places wondering if maybe this is a place where I'm able to. Im no Dev.. but to me it would seem like more work to program in this collision bull shit then it would to just allow me to jump where ever the hell I want.

Please someone, tell me im wrong with out providing an explanation or proof. /Looks at Kimahri.

[Kimahri]

Awww! You poor Powerpuff! I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. Lord knows you're only an inch away from dreadful thoughts. And you're so welcome for helping your state of confusion as to what a Map Collision was. Lord knows I'm here to educate the uneducated. Although I'm rather shocked at your post above. Seems to me you're acting like a girl with her panties in a bunch because I basically called you a moron. Don't worry though. It's not hard to laugh off pety insults...Especially when they come from someone as ignorant as yourself. Hahaha!

[Issachar]

Unfortunately I disagree. Id like to be able to chose where I can jump, not run around to random places wondering if maybe this is a place where I'm able to. Im no Dev.. but to me it would seem like more work to program in this collision bull shit then it would to just allow me to jump where ever the hell I want.

Please someone, tell me im wrong with out providing an explanation or proof. /Looks at Kimahri.

I respect your opinion and to each their own, but unrestricted jumping is considered, by many, to detract from the atmosphere of the game. Primarily because random kiddies need their ADD fix by jumping everywhere like the Frog Suit in SMB3.

That's my interpretation of what has been said about 14 and jumping, anyways.

The ONLY way I would be okay with manual/free jumping is by attaching the feature to the stamina bar. Make jumps use half of the bar (2 jumps in succession), requiring cooldown.

[Neptune]

Focant.....I think the war is over when it comes to this topic. I think I must've listed 15 different ways that Jump should only be implemented in this game as a collision detected, and at least carefully explained to people how their idea's still fall in line with a collision detection model, but people still ignore it and then list 5 different stupid ways that directly relate to what jumping doesn't do. I would really love to see an idiot go out and try to jump up 4 feet vertical. I would also really love to see someone try and jump up a six foot, 60 degree angle embankment. Oh.......and also you don't jump from a 20 foot hill.....You fall! It's called, "Jumping" because it's describing an action. You don't hear many people saying, "I'm going to fall to my death." Doesn't happen.

I'm done. I can't write this thread anymore. Nobody has a decent idea that doesn't directly fall into the lines of NEEDING to jump manually. Only thing they need is a Cattle Prod in the back of the neck to induce some Brain Cell activity. Let's face it. You don't jump up a hill. You climb a hill. You don't jump down a ledge. You fall from the ledge.

Have fun with this post. I'm going to talk about more important things that affects this game currently. Not that people, like Gifthorse, (Sorry, dude....I just think you're a few fries short of a happy meal.) care about.....Just as long as he's standing there jumping away as the fan base slowly dwindles away and this game falls flat on it's back. Peace!

Ok gifthorse is a few fries short of a happy meal.. wait..... no gifthorse is brilliant! YOU are like a happy meal box with 1 overfried fry in it.

On another note, I think unless we can convince Kimahri we NEED jump we don't deserve it. It's like convincing the state to give you more money for schools. Can you PROVE it? HAH! NO U CAN'T! So there! Nyah!

[Rawry]

Awww! You poor Powerpuff! I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. Lord knows you're only an inch away from dreadful thoughts. And you're so welcome for helping your state of confusion as to what a Map Collision was. Lord knows I'm here to educate the uneducated. Although I'm rather shocked at your post above. Seems to me you're acting like a girl with her panties in a bunch because I basically called you a moron. Don't worry though. It's not hard to laugh off pety insults...Especially when they come from someone as ignorant as yourself. Hahaha!

If you think I'm a moron because I'm not a video game developer that's cool. I could always educate my self if I cared enough. Thing is.. no matter what you do.. you'll always be a bitter internet nerd rager.

This has nothing to do with you "Basically calling me a moron" and everything to do with you being a bitchy punk. Some people don't agree with you. get over it. /pats your head.

[Rawry]

I respect your opinion and to each their own, but unrestricted jumping is considered, by many, to detract from the atmosphere of the game. Primarily because random kiddies need their ADD fix by jumping everywhere like the Frog Suit in SMB3.

That's my interpretation of what has been said about 14 and jumping, anyways.

The ONLY way I would be okay with manual/free jumping is by attaching the feature to the stamina bar. Make jumps use half of the bar (2 jumps in succession), requiring cooldown.

Erm of all the games ive played that allowed you to "free jump" ive never seen people jump remotely as much as you ppl imply they will. People spam emotes/dancing. Hows that any different? Im sorry dude.. but thats.. a whack reason. lol

[Nephera]

to say that the jumpspam apocalypse is going to happen the second it goes live is actually rather insulting to the playerbase.


Edit: Also namecalling,namecalling everywhere.

[Rowyne]

I hate seeing what had turned into an intelligent debate sink to a namecalling match.

[Kimahri]

If you think I'm a moron because I'm not a video game developer that's cool. I could always educate my self if I cared enough. Thing is.. no matter what you do.. you'll always be a bitter internet nerd rager.

This has nothing to do with you "Basically calling me a moron" and everything to do with you being a bitchy punk. Some people don't agree with you. get over it. /pats your head.

I'm sorry, but it's spelled. "Myself"