[dev1008] About Jumping

[Malakhim]

If they implement a jump feature I will quit this game. The thought of my feet leaving the ground especially in a video game is just terrifying. I mean, you could totally jump away from a mob when its fighting you. I did that once and had to do my rosary 3 times just to be forgiven for my wrong doing. And I swear if I saw people spamming jump or even jump across my screen while I was playing I would put my head in my hands and cry. I hear people saying that modern MMOs have a free jump implemented and they are successful. Honestly, I think this is a lie brought on by trolls who want to give bad influence to this game because they don't want it to succeed. They say things like it gives immersion to open worlds by being able to explore and climb mountains and hills. But I say that is a lie, too. If you leave the path through the zones that SE made in this game you are just looking for trouble and I don't think any reasonable person, only trolls because they are bad, would want to explore the world beyond its path.

A little too obvious, but nice effort.

I think we should have a poll to decide whether we should have a poll.

As for jumping, all I want is for it to be introduced in a way that makes sense. For those of you who might not know about Final Fantasy, the only job class that has traditionally been able to use jumping in combat has always been the dragoon, so keep that in mind. This IS a Final Fantasy game after all, not just your random MMO. It has to be true to that fact first and foremost.

[trinta]

A little too obvious, but nice effort.

I disagree with your premise. No such thing as "too obvious", too subtle might actually be taken seriously, and next thing you know, the board is plastered with arguments that only trolls leave the path because they're bad.

This IS a Final Fantasy game after all, not just your random MMO. It has to be true to that fact first and foremost.

So to preserve the right for the title to bear the Final Fantasy name, I should continue to get stuck on pebbles, just like the one in that one doorway in Ro'Maeve?

The honest truth is that my main reason for consistently voting in favor of a free jump ability is because they will never. never. never. NEVER. iron out all those little pebbles and bumps that shouldn't stop you... but do.

[Kaedan]

So to preserve the right for the title to bear the Final Fantasy name, I should continue to get stuck on pebbles, just like the one in that one doorway in Ro'Maeve?

The honest truth is that my main reason for consistently voting in favor of a free jump ability is because they will never. never. never. NEVER. iron out all those little pebbles and bumps that shouldn't stop you... but do.

I'm curious where "all these little pebbles that I'm getting stuck on" are? I've never found them. The only time I'm running or auto-running and get stopped is when I hit a hill or a very easy to see rock.

But I'm willing to compromise. Auto-jump or limited manual jump would be just fine.

[trinta]

I'm curious where "all these little pebbles that I'm getting stuck on" are? I've never found them. The only time I'm running or auto-running and get stopped is when I hit a hill or a very easy to see rock.

But I'm willing to compromise. Auto-jump or limited manual jump would be just fine.

I mostly find them on the road while running across Thanalan. I'd also accept your compromise.

[gifthorse]

A little too obvious, but nice effort.

I think we should have a poll to decide whether we should have a poll.

As for jumping, all I want is for it to be introduced in a way that makes sense. For those of you who might not know about Final Fantasy, the only job class that has traditionally been able to use jumping in combat has always been the dragoon, so keep that in mind. This IS a Final Fantasy game after all, not just your random MMO. It has to be true to that fact first and foremost.

Yeah let's hold up tradition for traditions sake alone even if it's irrational! First and foremost!

[Shikyo]

this is a stupid freakin topic i hate to even post on it but damn jumping is the least of this games problems move to the job system threads for god sake =/ at the moment ppl are not working on there plds or whm but there pugalancherconthaumaroniac the class system needs to be fixed bad ... just to say it though i would rather not see jumping in the game being able to drop of small drops or climb up small objects fine but just all out jumping is not needed at all

[Rowyne]

If they implement a jump feature I will quit this game. The thought of my feet leaving the ground especially in a video game is just terrifying. I mean, you could totally jump away from a mob when its fighting you. I did that once and had to do my rosary 3 times just to be forgiven for my wrong doing. And I swear if I saw people spamming jump or even jump across my screen while I was playing I would put my head in my hands and cry. I hear people saying that modern MMOs have a free jump implemented and they are successful. Honestly, I think this is a lie brought on by trolls who want to give bad influence to this game because they don't want it to succeed. They say things like it gives immersion to open worlds by being able to explore and climb mountains and hills. But I say that is a lie, too. If you leave the path through the zones that SE made in this game you are just looking for trouble and I don't think any reasonable person, only trolls because they are bad, would want to explore the world beyond its path.

I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. Priceless!

[Kaedan]

Adding an Auto-jump like FF7 or FFXIII would be completely acceptable. Or even a severely limited manual jump (not jumping off cliffs that are "too high", not allowing "jump spam", keeping some invisible walls around areas you are not meant to access, etc).

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

If it does not add to the game or is needed for game mechanics to work we don't need it. How hard is that to understand.

1. Do we need to jump to reach areas in the game?
2. Do we have puzzles we need to solve by jumping?
3. Do we need to jump, dodge or roll to avoid enemy attacks?

If you answered all 3 with NO then we don't need jumping in this game.

[Kaedan]

If it does not add to the game or is needed for game mechanics to work we don't need it. How hard is that to understand.

1. Do we need to jump to reach areas in the game?
2. Do we have puzzles we need to solve by jumping?
3. Do we need to jump, dodge or roll to avoid enemy attacks?

If you answered all 3 with NO then we don't need jumping in this game.

I agree with you that it's not necessary.

But I also recognize that there are problems caused by not having a jump and it would add more fun to the game.

I absolutely despise Free jumping with no limitations. But if they were to add an auto-jump similar to FFXIII or even add a manual jump that was limited:

-No Jumping off places that are "too high" (this avoids having to add falling damage).
-Limiting height of jump, just enough to get you up a small hill or something. (this avoids having to redesign entire areas)
-Keeping invisible walls in certain areas (this avoids people getting into places they aren't supposed to and having to redesign said areas).

If they were to do it that way, I would have no problem. Basically, whichever is easier for them to implement, Auto-jump or Limited manual jump, I would be in favor of.