[dev1008] About Jumping

[Anathiel]

yeah I'm for an auto jump feature from XIII or Zelda. that really makes alot of sense and would open up the world.

[Lissandra]

I am noticing a lot of people want jumping similar to FFXIII's if it were to be implemented, but I am thinking of it in terms to the gathering animations. People actually might get annoyed when they run to a certain spot that designates automatic jumping to get across that suddenly forces them to stop abruptly, but also might soon get annoyed when they say the animation process is too slow. And to top that off, might complain again if the animation were to be sped up, with people staking calls at it being too fast looking and unrealistic.


As for myself? Would I like a jump feature in this game?
Certainly.

Then, what about a jump feature never being implemented at all despite the talks?
I wouldn't mind. I can live without it; I have been for the past 6 months or so and am just fine.

Then...if it were to be added and then removed due to complications, player's raging, and whatnot?
That...well, it will depend on how it all pans out, I suppose.

[Lusavari]

I highly doubt the process would be to slow. That's assuming it's not instant, where they automatically walk to a predetermined spot, then get ready, squat, do a test jump, squat again, and go for real. I figure it'd really be an instantaneous transition exactly as it was in XIII. No selecting off the menu. It just happens as a normal part of the walking animation.

[Alyssa]

+1 for functional, realistic, motion-captured jump feature.

[Arkhan]

Jumping is no good.

It would be unrealistic/unfair.

Lalafell will be jumping 2-3x their own height if the jumping is to be fairly scaled so everyone has the same jumping abilities.

So, a "little" hill to a Roe, is like an impassable wall to a Lalafell...

No jump.

FF11 didn't need it, and Neither does FF14

[Lusavari]

XI also didn't have the invisible walls issue that XIV has though. Look, Lalafel are described as having strong legs, just like Tarutaru. Despite their size, they can run as fast as everyone else. I think it's ok if they jump as high too.

[Overkill9000]

a grasshopper jumps much farther than i do

[Defmetal]

Why do you all assume that just because people looked like idiots in wow that it will be bad?
Nobody complains about jumping in EQ2 or EQ1 or LOTRO or DDO because they don't make it "cool" to jump.

In WoW everyone jumps and dances everywhere because they stylized it. Nobody spammed it in EQ2 because the animations looked stupid, but it was still very useful, Especially in boss encounters where they had floating platforms and random teleports.

Think about the potential jump could have in bad-assery.
Earth-based mob uses Quake, players Jump.
Deadly encounter with a 2-inch hill that makes you run around halfway around the map, players jump.

Adding a system for jumping could add them to allow a lot more features in the future, such as swimming. This is an MMO, a beautiful MMO with lots of room for social interactions and roleplaying and just chilling out. It's a video game.... and maybe you just want to jump in the lake with your friends who don't live in the same city as you and just BS with each other.

Jumping isn't evil, WoW making it cooler to jump around town than actually play the game is.

[Lusavari]

First, being able to avoid earth based attacks by way of jumps would be broken. Especially since you get the warning, it wouldn't be hard to time, which stops anyone from ever going an earth route, especially in PvP, but also, the earth attacks rise a bit from the ground, so even then, I doubt jumping is gonna stop them unless you're using a Dragoon Jump.

Also, you could still do stuff like the floating platforms, even in an automatic setting. The problem is though, to avoid terrain abuse, the ability to target to many levels above or below you is off, and even if you do, monsters can move up most any terrain. Same deal with swimming. There's gonna be a lot involved with going in the water. Now, I think an underwater temple is cool as hell, and I'm just as for it as the next person, but I just do not wanna deal with under water fighting. Of course, then again, I think they have something planned with airship battles, so trying to rule out to much is silly too, but if that stuff is gonna show up, it's better off in the form of some addition to the regular movement mechanic. In other words, no up and down movements. Set paths, even under water. What's more, a lot of the water in the game isn't even set for something like swimming. The Ocean in Limsa is a solid object. It's basically a specially textured ground. Since they're not about to change any of the current maps as is, I doubt they're gonna over haul the water of La Noscea any time soon. More importantly, there's a LOT of other stuff I'd rather see changed and overhauled than trying to do swimming. Swimming alone would take probably 3-4 months just to develop, and another 2 to implement and get actually working. That's 6 months I'd rather see spent on more meaningful things.

The best way to handle jumping is just a smooth add-on to the basic movement mechanic. As far as I see anyway. Its a quick trip to the MoCap studio, about a week to get it all mapped, and bam. You're gold.

[MysaZages]

I would like jump.