[dev1008] About Jumping

[snowstriker]

I definitely think a context-sensitive jump is the best approach for FFXIV. Similar to FFXIII, if you approach a ledge or a small gap, there will be a marker near it that means if you touch it, your character jumps. It's also pretty much how Zelda handles jumps, you can't jump whenever you want, only up/down ledges.

[Arturia]

I don't care if it's a 'jump' feature, or a climbing animation... Please just let me go over small cliffs & ledges rather than walk sometimes obnoxious distances to go around. Though I really don't like the idea of people bunny hopping around in full plate.

[Prestige]

Yes to a jump feature, but implement something to prevent jump spam so everyone isn't bouncing around the world. Best of both worlds. The MINORITY who do not want any jump feature, do you not realize you are literally hindering the game and any chance of new playerbase? Most people who play MMOs don't use the forums, so they rarely voice their opinion, but judging by the current trend it would seem they want small convenience features like jumping (just one of many).

[Spellstar]

I vote yes for jump

[Kerath]

The only two reasons I want jump are to get over terrible collision and for something to do when I am running around to different areas. Walking is so boring and takes forever. The reason people bunny hop is because they need something to do.

People keep bringing up FXIII jumping mechanic, but really if collision was fixed in the game and we had something like a sprint feature, like riding chocobos in FFXIII then we wouldn't need jump.

If we get Chocobos to ride in the game so it doesn't take forever to run places, Please add a sprint feature just like riding chocobos in FFXIII if we don't get chocobos that are implemented like that, then please add a sprint feature for players.

[Exiledraven]

I love how people immediately associate jumping at will with WoW, as if that's the first MMO to have jumping in it. I also love how people praise FF for how it's evolved over all these years, yet scream for tradition when adding new gameplay features to FFXIV. What tradition (Not Chocobos, Airships, Moogles, etc.)? Sure, FF always had 'traditional' RPG elements, but each game always took what worked, then added new gameplay elements. So what if the game never had jump before? Now could be the time to add it.

Also, who cares if you find people randomly jumping annoying? You don't think other people do? I know I find it annoying , but you guys make it seem like it was happening anywhere, everywhere, and at all times in WoW. I played WoW for a long time and never saw the mindless jumping nearly as much as you say it happens. I think immediately hating a feature because of the way one MMO handles it is pretty stupid, since it makes it seem like you don't think SE can learn from another MMO and implement it in a better way. For all the people complaining about realism and how it would have no point, so what? It's a game. Games should be fun, which means including certain useless features just for the fun or aesthetic factor. Besides, there's plenty of things in real-life that don't seem to have any point (like video games *gasp*), but they're here anyway for the fun or aesthetic factor.

I'd be fine with the compromise of having FFXIII-style jumping if that's what it would take to actually put it in the game, but not any form of jumping at all just because FF never had it or because you don't like WoW is pretty lame.

[Suzaku]

However, a jump feature would certainly have uses, like getting over that small cliff that's slightly too big to walk over.

I am honestly curious where you're referring to. After they tweaked the terrain collision a long while back, I haven't found any place I couldn't run over that also didn't come up to at least my knees or waist. Remember that the lines on the minimap coincide with the impassable terrain--if you're not crossing a line on the map, you can walk over it.

Basically, I keep seeing this (quite old alpha-era) argument, and no examples to back it up, and I haven't experienced it at all from, gosh, open beta onwards.

[Shawn_Wanamaker]

Jumping, can you jump? I can jump. Why can't my character jump?
They jump in cutscenes. Is the gravity too strong for our characters' weak little legs?
I mean really, in this day and age not being able to jump in a game is a little stupid.

I'm fine without it, but don't make excuses about it. It wont kill the game.
Besides if its about jumping in battle they can just make it so you can only do it in passive mode, when
there are no enemies engaged if that's the case.

[Jigg]

Context jumping I am all for. Not freeform jumping. That gets abused way too much. The reason it keeps getting associated with WoW is because they're full of "Jumping because I'm bored" people. That's the worst argument I've ever heard for adding jump to a game.

[Wolfie]

Freeform jumping is needed to bring the game into the 21st century.

There's also an easy fix to solve the "jumping because I'm bored" crowd: give jumping a stamina bar.