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  1. #151
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    Right now what matters the most is A) get rid of the retainers as they serve no function whatsoever
    I rather like the extra 300 storage spaces (well that's going ot be reduced in ARR), thank you very much. Also, retainers were supposed to be a much more important part of the game than they are now- implementing the rest of their functionality was put on the back burner because of all the other things that were busted about the game at the time.

    MW as a system is such a stain on XIV's reputation and let's face it.
    It doesn't have to be. It's already been hugely improved over what it once was, with some more care and attention it will turn out just fine, with a hell of a lot less effort than rebuilding a new system from scratch.

    It has been transformed so far from it's original idea that it turned into a disfigured rolanberry ah with much clunkier usability.
    Actually, that's what it used to be. Now it's a disfigured AH with a decent buying process but a busted selling process. Fix the latter and it will be a workable system.


    I get this but there's 3 different levels of tailor's row and their organized into subcategories that to a newer player wouldn't make sense.
    I agree that some of the category names are not very intuitive, but a simple name change would fix that. Also in regard to the tailor's ward, there are somewhat more items, but I don't feel like the clothing section needs to be broken into three categories.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I rather like the extra 300 storage spaces (well that's going ot be reduced in ARR), thank you very much. Also, retainers were supposed to be a much more important part of the game than they are now- implementing the rest of their functionality was put on the back burner because of all the other things that were busted about the game at the time.

    It doesn't have to be. It's already been hugely improved over what it once was, with some more care and attention it will turn out just fine, with a hell of a lot less effort than rebuilding a new system from scratch.

    Actually, that's what it used to be. Now it's a disfigured AH with a decent buying process but a busted selling process. Fix the latter and it will be a workable system.


    I agree that some of the category names are not very intuitive, but a simple name change would fix that. Also in regard to the tailor's ward, there are somewhat more items, but I don't feel like the clothing section needs to be broken into three categories.
    So let me get this straight: you think having storage slots is ONLY possible with the 3d retainers. I'm speechless.
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  3. #153
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    If we get alternate storage options like in our rooms then I won't care if they completely get rid of the retainer system.
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  4. #154
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    XI had a whole bunch of ways to increase inventory and store gear and rent space in a mog locker.

    Since we're getting houses it seems like a now brainer addition to make the home as central hub of our gear and loot management. I'd rather trust my stuff in the hands of a house-mog than my item-slave-boy-004
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    Anyone who supports the retainer system is in favour of slavery. When was the last time any of you paid your retainer ?
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Also, how many auction houses let you repair items and how many auction houses let an NPC buy items for you on your behalf?
    Well... call me crazy but how about we keep market wards for this purpose and take the shopping to an AH?

    Like... no one is saying that we shouldnt have an area where we could bazaar stuff on our retainers but like in real life... I like to buy my toiletpaper from a supermarket and my vegetables from markets.

    I personally find the market wards just a bit stupid waste of time and I don't understand why bother waste time trying to improve it. Leave it as it is but make a new AH, hell copy paste the info from FFXI (oh my dear me, I said the forbidden word!) and leave retainers to people who like to keep the "market" feeling to the shopping.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamba View Post
    Well... call me crazy but how about we keep market wards for this purpose and take the shopping to an AH?

    Like... no one is saying that we shouldnt have an area where we could bazaar stuff on our retainers but like in real life... I like to buy my toiletpaper from a supermarket and my vegetables from markets.

    I personally find the market wards just a bit stupid waste of time and I don't understand why bother waste time trying to improve it. Leave it as it is but make a new AH, hell copy paste the info from FFXI (oh my dear me, I said the forbidden word!) and leave retainers to people who like to keep the "market" feeling to the shopping.
    I suppose someone said this already, but the nice thing about market wards is we don't have to go from storage thingy (moogle/retainer/whatever) to sale place, and back. We can do it all from our retainer, and I'm sure they're going to streamline it all in 2.0. It's clunky now, but at least we have a search counter. I honestly see little difference between this and an AH besides hidden sale prices. If they can solve the retainer cap problem it'll be fine.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimie View Post
    Anyone who supports the retainer system is in favour of slavery. When was the last time any of you paid your retainer ?
    The last time they sold something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I agree that some of the category names are not very intuitive, but a simple name change would fix that. Also in regard to the tailor's ward, there are somewhat more items, but I don't feel like the clothing section needs to be broken into three categories.
    This is exactly what I'm talking about. As long as they simplify it and make the whole system more comprehensive I really don't care which way it goes, AH or MWs.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    This is exactly what I'm talking about. As long as they simplify it and make the whole system more comprehensive I really don't care which way it goes, AH or MWs.
    but for what do we need that:





    better gaming experience? i dont get it ^
    i dont know how you feel, but selling materials and items is so annoying .. checking "AH" prices at the NPC... change market.. go to your retainer and trade your material.. then go again if you want to sell more than one.. its annoying, instead of directly sell it via auction house.


    man how i enjoyed to go shopping and selling stuff in an auction house in FFXI.. that was fun ;XD
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 09-18-2012 at 11:52 PM.

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