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  1. 09-15-2012 11:34 PM

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    Agreed...get rid of the damn Market Wards, I have not been able to sell anything because of this crappy system...I refuse to sit there and battle a system for space for my retainer, only to have them dropped in a week if Im busy with school/life/work.

    ABOLISH THE MARKET WARD

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    Wards suck... And the retainer system is kind of stupid to be honest... I personally say that they should just have an auction house, and then have a banking NPC to store our extra items. Then when housing comes out, replace the banking NPC with a bank in our house instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titans View Post
    Thank you SE for keeping the markets wards. Glad that SE stood it's ground about market wards and not switching to an AH. This is not FFXI. If you want an AH take your arse back to XI.
    You are pretty stupid.
    90% of all MMOs out there use the AH/Broker system. FFXI DID NOT INVENT IT.
    I'ts much easier and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagagemini View Post
    You are pretty stupid.
    90% of all MMOs out there use the AH/Broker system. FFXI DID NOT INVENT IT.
    I'ts much easier and fast.
    You sound pretty stupid. I like something that you don't like, I'm stupid for it really?? But this isn't about me, and I don't play other MMOs. I don't care what other MMOs are doing, I care what this one is doing. Keep it challenging at all aspects of the game. This thread is about one who is mad that they can't sell there crap, because they can't get a retainer into Ul'dah's wards.
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    Last edited by Titans; 09-17-2012 at 10:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titans View Post
    You sound pretty stupid. I like something that you don't like, I'm stupid for it really?? But this isn't about me. But I don't play other MMOs. I don't care what other MMOs are doing, I care what this one is doing. Keep it challenging at all aspects of the game. This thread is about one who is mad that they can't sell there crap, because they can't get a retainer into Ul'dah's ward.
    To sum it up you're saying: "I don't care what you are doing. I don't care what other MMOs are doing. All i care is that i like MW and i want that way"
    So manly! Hahahha
    You sir are a joke. Keep on posting and i'll keep on laughing.
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    To sum up my thought on MW vs AH


    KISS


    Keep It Simple Stupid
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    Anyone who likes the market ward system is IMHO STUPID

    You think the market ward system is challenging ? In what way ? It's a time sink, an exercise in frustration, and a poorly implemented system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimie View Post
    Anyone who likes the market ward system is IMHO STUPID

    You think the market ward system is challenging ? In what way ? It's a time sink, an exercise in frustration, and a poorly implemented system.
    To some people tedious=challenging. I don't get it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titans View Post
    Thank you SE for keeping the markets wards. Glad that SE stood it's ground about market wards and not switching to an AH. This is not FFXI. If you want an AH take your arse back to XI.
    I'm not sure what's more impressive... The frequency with which I see this "logic" of "if it's in FFXI it shouldn't be in XIV" come up. Or the fact that people actually think it's in any way a solid line of argument.

    Considering that the AH system in XI actually works and has for as long as the game's been running with the only major change to it being all the nations' AH's being linked... Meanwhile, the ward system has presented nothing but issue on top of issue since launch (hence why they've had to continuously work on them and are giving them an overhaul for 2.0).

    Also, if you're so against something in XI being in XIV then, in all sincerity, how the hell are you even playing this game?

    Rhoegadyn -> Galka
    Miqo'te -> Mithra
    Elezen -> Elvaan
    Lalafell -> Taru
    Hume -> Hyur

    Goblins in XIV are identical to the ones in XI
    Qiqirn in XIV are identical to the ones in XI
    Raptors in XIV are identical to the ones in XI
    Notorious Monsters that drop rare gear? Yep! XI's got those too!
    Job specific Artifact Armor obtained from chests/coffers and/or from NM-type boss fights? Yep, XI had that too
    Real-time travel by ferry? Yep, XI had the Mhuara <-> Selbina ferry.

    The list goes on.

    Don't want XIV to be anything like XI? Too late! You're swimming in similarities every minute you're logged in.

    So really, if you're so emotionally against "anything from XI being in XIV", then it boggles the mind how you can even stand getting past the damn character select screen.

    It's like running into the ocean and then screaming that you don't want to get wet.

    Or maybe it's just that you don't have a good argument against an AH in lieu of the MW system, but feel the need to say something anyway?

    It further boggles my mind how people are bringing up suggestions for things to be "like in GW2", have brought up suggestions from WoW, and Rift, and TOR and other MMOs and that's perfectly fine. All MMOs that are their own universes and their own themes, with their own specific gameplay design and structure... that's a-okay. Bring those up all day long and no one will flinch. Bring up something from a previous title in the series that just happened to also be a MMO and just happened to have a successful run - like say, FFXI - and holy crap, people start foaming at the mouth.

    TL;DR - An AH similar to FFXI's would be a better option than an incaration of XIV's MW system because XI's AH has demonstrably worked in that game for almost a decade. XIV's MW system has only persisted in frustrating, despite multiple attempts to improve and streamline it - some of those improvements, incidentally, being more in line with XI's AH than anything else.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 09-18-2012 at 02:51 AM.

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