It is simple.. if you COPY an existing Design, you broke the Rules you agree'd with when you entered the Contest. The Copyright belongs to whoever created the Design first. It doesnt matter if that Person forbids the usage or allows it, it is in fact copyright.
Many Ring factories create that Ring, even with the same Colors and i posted a Picture, which has actually the same Size and Angle. So it is obvious that the Ring is a lousy Copy, even with Coloring. Putting 3 lines of Letters on it, doesnt make it your own Design.
I am aware of the fact that most people dont have a Clue about Copyright, including yourself. You normaly post good Statements and back them up, but this Time you missed the whole Point. Also.. i checked the NA-Agreements and they dont have that many Paragraphs about what you were allowed and what not, like the French/German Lodestone-entry.
Breaking Rules is breaking Rules... it was said do not COPY existing Designs. Simple enough to understand that Part. What you think why there was an agreement that we are giving all the copyright's to SE, as soon as we send our entries in? Since the Designer automatically is the owner of the copyrights.
You dont have to go to a certain Place and be like "Hey this is mine, register this"...
People mixing Copyright with Trademark.
It sucks because I voted for design 6 without realizing it actually does exist. A few of those designs were just awful, (Minus the Dalamud design, that's actually pretty cool, it fits the whole "survivor" theme too that SE is pushing. Wishing I had voted for that one instead.) and while I won't name which I had to ponder why SE would even consider it.
EDIT: Not sure but I think you can either vote as many times as you like or maybe change your vote. I went back and it let me cast a vote so hopefully we can change votes then. Thanks for pointing this out to me.
Last edited by Mihana; 09-15-2012 at 07:13 PM.
Its just strange that the agreements in NA and EU/French are such so different. I dont wonder why some ppl put up existing designs if thats not clearly said in the agreement...
I just think SE should take them out and give other designs that are really new a chance of winning.
Edit: Oh, and just dont think i want my design, i didnt even participate.
I will admit if the No.6 entry were red/black/gold to fit the company colors, it would be more inspired than copying the bronze/silver/gold google search results and slapping on the city names. But I maintain the design is generic enough that SE won't have to worry about legal ramifications if No.6 wins. More than artistic integrity, SE is worried about getting sued for featuring someone else's intellectual property--rings, potato chips, whatever--in their pay-to-play MMO.
I prefer creativity and dedication before all, and 5,6 dont have it. its good to have a base for the rings, but this bad give symmetry or just put lettering.
Bienvenidos Hispanos a Hyperion !
My two cents are that those entries should be Disqualified, not only do they entirely lack originality and are complete rip.off's i'd like to cite a case rmember briefly some months ago with the DoTA 2 the release of the hammer which was completely taken from AION in this ase there ere people inadvertedly being scammed, and a community being riped off isn't a nice thing.
In any case SE can't and won't worry for any possible legal action against them if any of this rings win, but adding them as in game assets does set a dangerous precedent to the possibility of having further contests where entries go even further than that and completely steal conceptual art or designs from other game media.
In this case i'd wouldn't be surprised if the original artist if he/she caught wind of it could very well ask for a removal of said asset, if his reproduction rights and intellectual rights over said design hadn't been sold to square something that would eventually only hurt the community of FFXiV.
Thirdly as a Design Major who's been in both the competing end and on the judge committee of contest as this, it's disappointing to see how people with no cretivity at all submit artwork as their own when all ghy are doing is tracing over someone's else design and painting different color.
Bullshit like this is even worse if one of this rings ends up winning the contest, it's a constant reminder of how the committee has one of the worse researchers out there, it's a simple google search of final fantasy ring..... and you find no.6
These guys whoever they are, can only be blamed of unimaginative and unscrupulous artists, however professional community manager and committee that's supposed to screen this type of thing is always present in contests as this, and the fact that rings like this make it to the final, can only mean someone's not doing their job the right way
meh, who cares, entry #10 is where the awesome is at anyways. ^_^ I love the natural crystal look, it screams final fantasy to me!
There's only so many ways to make a goddanged ring. Of course you're going to see similar designs crop up.Anyway, it's still not original work..
Either way, if you're serious about reporting copyright infringment, you should email square enix, not make a ruckus on the forums about it.
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