Scrap current classes or keep as is?

[TheVedis]

Auto attack will significantly change the game. I brought it up in the AA thread. We will lose significant amounts of control in combat, and it's going to create a lot of problems. IMO, more than it's worth to have it.

we will lose some control over attack order, thats for sure, how they implement ability activation during the auto attack is the point of interest there.

[Cape-Freak]

There is nothing to say they can't keep the existing armory system and still rename the classes though and redo some skills.

Exactly. Changing class/ability names and maybe adding or redistributing some skills (like giving Jump to Lancer, for example) wouldn't require any fundamental changes to the way the Armoury System works - it would still be the Armoury System, just with more of a traditional Final Fantasy theme to it.

From what I've seen, it doesn't seem like the DoW classes would really change much if they were renamed to more classic FF series counterparts. It's the DoM classes that would cause the real problem with the way they're sort of a hodgepodge of what would normally be classified as white/black magic under other FF job systems.

If they were to keep the current classes though, my preference would be to see them used as base classes in a Tactics-style progression, which is an idea I've seen mentioned a few times. Though that would probably still require some reworking of the existing classes in order for such a progression to make sense while still keeping all the base classes viable in the long term.

Ultimately it's a tricky problem and I certainly don't envy the designers.

[Akumu]

With the two choices Yoshi-P is deciding from I also don't see anything relating to a possible current class name changes.


Yoshida-san is between two possible plans at this time. The first idea is that the traditional names would be introduced as “higher” or “advanced” classes. The traditional classes would thus be something of a goal for players. The second idea is that the traditional names would be more of a subset or specialization within the existing classes.

When they change the armory system they will be enhancing it not just deleting/rewriting names and moving abilities around.

[TheVedis]

With the two choices Yoshi-P is deciding from I also don't see anything relating to a possible current class name changes.


Yoshida-san is between two possible plans at this time. The first idea is that the traditional names would be introduced as “higher” or “advanced” classes. The traditional classes would thus be something of a goal for players. The second idea is that the traditional names would be more of a subset or specialization within the existing classes.

When they change the armory system they will be enhancing it not just deleting/rewriting names and moving abilities around.

and thats the quote i keep refering to, thanks for posting it

[Darksoul]

Wow you cry babies need to get a grip. AA is coming deal with it and along with is coming a completely revamped battle system, which mean skills and abilities from all current classes will have to changed to adapt to the new system. The game has failed and they are making drastic changes to pu it right, maybe one of those changes is to the class system as even in this biased fanboy environment of people who mostly still play the game on this thread scrapping the system is winning over keepin it the same last time I checked, so stop holding onto the past and get with the times. Change is going to happen for this game to survive as it can't with the amount of players it currently has

[Dranio]

Wow you cry babies need to get a grip. AA is coming deal with it and along with is coming a completely revamped battle system, which mean skills and abilities from all current classes will have to changed to adapt to the new system. The game has failed and they are making drastic changes to pu it right, maybe one of those changes is to the class system as even in this biased fanboy environment of people who mostly still play the game on this thread scrapping the system is winning over keepin it the same last time I checked, so stop holding onto the past and get with the times. Change is going to happen for this game to survive as it can't with the amount of players it currently has

Name calling is bad, mmmmkay.

I don't mind Auto Attack being added, in fact, I welcome it. The majority of the player's thought the battle system needed a lot of work (from what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong).

However, scrapping the class system and redoing would be a gamebreaker for me (Though He's already stated he won't be doing this). The Armory system itself is a good system, they just need to finalize it, it simply isn't complete yet, or it doesn't 'feel' complete to me anyway. Not wanting it scrapped doesn't mean we're holding onto the past, it means we actually like the system.

I await more details on what he plans to do, but until then, I'll sit back and quietly read the forums like usual, occasionally popping in with a response.

[AlexiaKidd]

Lets see if people opinions have changed much since this thread was started.

[rubina]

Treat the current release as one of the betas so wipe everything & start fresh.

[Physic]

Treat the current release as one of the betas so wipe everything & start fresh.

people without a lot of time invested love this idea, i dont like to grind endlessly, id rather move foward, pass.

[Commat]

people without a lot of time invested love this idea, i dont like to grind endlessly, id rather move foward, pass.

I have a 50 and a few 35+ and i would love a wipe, always felt that way.

Why build a second story on a mud hut when you can start over with wood?