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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    @ Those who think you'll lose class progression.

    All SE would have to do is change it so where you change to the classes like gladiator or whatever and then add in a skill system, where sword is highest on gladiator and axe is highest on marauder, etc. I would be in favor of such a system.

    That doesn't make sense to allow the current classes to use all weapons because the naming nomenclature is designed to be specific to the weapon.

    Gladiator = Gladius + Ator = Latin: Sword User
    Archer = Arcus + -er = Latin: Sword User
    Marauder = French : Frank Axe Warrior of pre-Medieval France. (Francisca was their favored weapon which got its name because they were the Franks who used them. This also is where France got its name.)
    Pugilist = Pugil + -ist = Latin: One who fights with Fists.
    Lancer = Lancea + -er = Latin: Lance User
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    That doesn't make sense to allow the current classes to use all weapons because the naming nomenclature is designed to be specific to the weapon.

    Gladiator = Gladius + Ator = Latin: Sword User
    Archer = Arcus + -er = Latin: Sword User
    Marauder = French : Frank Axe Warrior of pre-Medieval France. (Francisca was their favored weapon which got its name because they were the Franks who used them. This also is where France got its name.)
    Pugilist = Pugil + -ist = Latin: One who fights with Fists.
    Lancer = Lancea + -er = Latin: Lance User
    Don't care if it doesn't make sense, I just want it to be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    That doesn't make sense to allow the current classes to use all weapons because the naming nomenclature is designed to be specific to the weapon.

    Gladiator = Gladius + Ator = Latin: Sword User
    Archer = Arcus + -er = Latin: Sword User
    Marauder = French : Frank Axe Warrior of pre-Medieval France. (Francisca was their favored weapon which got its name because they were the Franks who used them. This also is where France got its name.)
    Pugilist = Pugil + -ist = Latin: One who fights with Fists.
    Lancer = Lancea + -er = Latin: Lance User
    We know that the "classes" are just names for a type of weapon user and that is the problem ><

    I want weapons and jobs separate. Make it so thats weapons give you weapons skills and then actual jobs. So for example I can be CON as my class and still have full affinity as a CON have my AOE and all skills and abilities that come with CON but if I wanted I could equip a sword as my primary attack weapon and have the weapon skill's from the sword only. So I could still AOE nuke albeit slightly less than with a stave as they have extra stats for magic buffs, but not to the degree like it is now.

    Currently if I equip a sword and then equipped everything from the CON skillset I would still be nothing like a CON with a sword as a weapon and if I got invited to a party people would expect me to tank as I would be a GLA. That is why I want proper job/classes that aren't defined by the weapon they wield.
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    well they already said they wont wipe or chars ranks etc so if they can do that without having to then i dont mind but the fact of them stating they wont wipe chars does have a limiting factor in what they can change
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    Scrap it. We need FF classes, not Rapture classes =)
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    But Con' and Tham's weapons are their Aoe Ability, the weapon you equip is just the focus for that ability.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    But Con' and Tham's weapons are their Aoe Ability, the weapon you equip is just the focus for that ability.
    Which is the entire problem ><

    If I am a Rank 50 Mage I should still be able to cast without even having a weapon in my hand, the weapon is not where the magic comes from it comes from the person wielding it. I should not suddenly forget how to cast because I do not have a weapon equipped. The weapon should enhance my cast more not completely remove my ability to AOE.

    Also like I said if I equip a sword I am a GLA and if I turn up to a party and say I want to main heal I would get laughed off the server, so weapon=class is stupid.
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    Scrap IMO, but keep progress, for example if you are a rank 30 conjurer before the change you will be a rank 30 (whatever takes its place).

    Adding additional classes on to a system which is already flawed is asking for trouble in the long term.

    Yoshi-p has limited himself now though in saying he wouldn't wipe characters, but then can't blame him as the out cry if he did would be deafening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Scrap IMO, but keep progress, for example if you are a rank 30 conjurer before the change you will be a rank 30 (whatever takes its place).

    Adding additional classes on to a system which is already flawed is asking for trouble in the long term.

    Yoshi-p has limited himself now though in saying he wouldn't wipe characters, but then can't blame him as the out cry if he did would be deafening.
    can you blame people if he did?

    what your saying is, it doesnt matter if we leveled what we leveled

    if i leveled a conjuruer, i want to be a conjurer, not a black mage/white mage or whatever you think they should change it too

    there are way better solutions then just changing the entire job, and giving someone the level in that job instead, itd piss alot of people off, more then if they just added to the system(which wont piss people off but moreso just give them alternatives or choices)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    can you blame people if he did?

    what your saying is, it doesnt matter if we leveled what we leveled

    if i leveled a conjuruer, i want to be a conjurer, not a black mage/white mage or whatever you think they should change it too

    there are way better solutions then just changing the entire job, and giving someone the level in that job instead, itd piss alot of people off, more then if they just added to the system(which wont piss people off but moreso just give them alternatives or choices)
    Thing is though it might piss a lot of people off but how many are we really talking, there aren't that many players and if doing this will get them more players than it will lose then they should do it.

    People need to start looking at the bigger picture, the game hasn't done well. Yes there are many other reasons as to why it hasn't done well, it wasn't just the class system. However over 85% of people that completed the survey voted for DRASTIC CHANGE.
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    Last edited by AlexiaKidd; 03-31-2011 at 05:53 AM.

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