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    This has to be the worst argument against have global servers I have ever heard. It's great to be able to exposed from people with different experiences and cultures.
    It's not the worst, it's actually probably the best. Yes, I understand there are benefits to being exposed to different cultures. But you don't have to play an MMORPG to do that (and it's HARDLY the best environment for exposure to culture).

    Right now, at this very moment, I'm standing around idle, watching a million JP shouts go by. I have no idea what any of these people are doing. Is this supposed to be fun? I think this is a pretty fair question.

    We don't just play at oddball hours, our hours of play change very frequently. So no matter what server we pick we are at a massive disadvantage when it comes to finding people to play with allready, we have now cut that chance to near nothingness.
    then MMORPGs are not the best genre of game for you, especially those which place a fair amount of importance on grouping. You're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Being on a "global" server doesn't solve this problem because

    1) the notion that there will be nobody online during your oddball times on a regional server is just wrong
    2) If you're on a "global" server, odds are you won't be able to communicate with most of the players online and thus it's not much better than not having anyone online at all.

    As it is now, you could solve multiple issues at once by just making a couple characters on different servers, and playing whichever one suits your current needs (in before you say "I shouldn't have to do this" - It's not something you have to do, it's a suggestion)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's not the worst, it's actually probably the best.
    No it really is the worst. I'll explain below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Right now, at this very moment, I'm standing around idle, watching a million JP shouts go by. I have no idea what any of these people are doing. Is this supposed to be fun? I think this is a pretty fair question.
    That's not the servers problem it's the scant population of the game in general. How is hearing Japanese players shout bother you in any way/shape/form at all? Isn't it better for there to be more people on your server active at any time doing more than just shouting. They are crafting, leveling, farming materials, killing monsters, hunting actively making the world alive at all hours of the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    then MMORPGs are not the best genre of game for you.
    Who are you to tell me what I can and can't do? I did so perfectly fine in XI I knew people from all corners of the world who can communicate with me just fine. I knew Japanese players (I don't speak much Japanese) Koreans, Germans, Mexicans, to name a few of the places people I played with on a constant basis. They never all played at the same times so I would often only see certain groups during certain times but I was part of a community that accepted me for who I was and when I was available.

    Please stop posting with such short-sighted answers without looking beyond your face for the answers to questions you have.
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    Alhanelem, Some people just love Global servers, Some people don't want to change for the better ( since I said that I'll be getting a post in a bit as to why it isn't better :P). Its like people not accepting the Offline FF change that FF is going through, and people can't let go of the turned based JRPG they had many moons ago.

    When it comes down to it, Regional servers help tremendously, people will flock to the nearest data center, people will adapt, people will make new friends to play with, and life goes on as always.

    As Long as the game is great everything else just falls into place, just It's hard to see a change when FF online has always been "Global" since 10ish years ago with FFXI. Accepting change is always a hard thing to deal with, but it will happen sooner than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Looks like you don't understand what me or him are saying. We don't just play at oddball hours, our hours of play change very frequently. So no matter what server we pick we are at a massive disadvantage when it comes to finding people to play with allready, we have now cut that chance to near nothingness.

    We can't afford to skip servers everytime our work or life events change.
    This problem is partly alleviated by the cross server content finder that they are putting in. But I saw that you posted in another topic how you don't like the idea of the content finder. It seems you have some irrational hatred of it even though you have yet to try. This feature is in a few other MMO and the reason for it is so people can find other people to do stuff with at any time they wish to log on.

    They add a feature like this so people like you who play odd hours or hours that change can still log in and do some dungeon or raid in the game. Since you can log in and use the feature at whatever time.

    What exactly would keep you from having a good time with the game when you can press a button and in a few min have a group to do a raid with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    It seems you have some irrational hatred of it even though
    One doesn't need to try standing in a line and then being crammed into a box to know what having only Instanced content to do to know what Content finder will be like.

    I enjoy open world gameplay and both content finder and segregated servers fly in the face of having a world that feels alive. Why bother reworking the maps if we will never use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    One doesn't need to try standing in a line and then being crammed into a box to know what having only Instanced content to do to know what Content finder will be like.

    I enjoy open world gameplay and both content finder and segregated servers fly in the face of having a world that feels alive. Why bother reworking the maps if we will never use them.
    More or less this... SE could of saved a ton of development cost if they just made say Uldah and instanced dungeons. Honestly is all the open world is for is solo quest... they wasted their time developing it because people will do it once then just sit in Uldah and que up.

    Many mmos have dungeon finder and while it is really great for casuals... it screws over endgame guilds, degrades the community, and promotes theft in raids especially with the current system. People you play with 1 day are the not the same the next. I am sorry but this is a garbage design and one of the main things WoW did to destroy this genre. Community and guilds use to be everything in a mmo, now they are nothing but tools to use for your own progression. Sad really.

    Honestly I hope SE is not stupid enough to reward people for using Dungeon finder like other mmos... making a non finder party should come with increased drop rates and xp. More so the drop rates.
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    Tho I like this, they probably wont need 3 global servers. if anything 1 Global, 3 Japan, 2 NA, 1 EU. The new servers can handle way more people and monsters at a time and in any area, they wont suck so much to need so many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    More or less this... SE could of saved a ton of development cost if they just made say Uldah and instanced dungeons. Honestly is all the open world is for is solo quest... they wasted their time developing it because people will do it once then just sit in Uldah and que up.

    Many mmos have dungeon finder and while it is really great for casuals... it screws over endgame guilds, degrades the community, and promotes theft in raids especially with the current system. People you play with 1 day are the not the same the next. I am sorry but this is a garbage design and one of the main things WoW did to destroy this genre. Community and guilds use to be everything in a mmo, now they are nothing but tools to use for your own progression. Sad really.

    Honestly I hope SE is not stupid enough to reward people for using Dungeon finder like other mmos... making a non finder party should come with increased drop rates and xp. More so the drop rates.
    I have played WoW and know first hand that them having dungeon finder and raid finder doesn't screw over endgame at all. Because people still have guilds and raid with their friends and do the harder difficulties for better drops that aren't available in the raid finder. It is actually a very successful tool because not everyone is in a guild that does endgame but this gives them something to do so they can see the content. MMOs need casual players to play otherwise the devs won't make any money in most MMOs only like 5-10% of the games population play in a hard core environment (set raid schedule, trying to progress through the hardest content ect.)

    If SE does what Blizzard does they will make the easy mode in the raid finder, and normal or hard mode you will have to make your own group for which drops higher quality of gear.
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    Content finder itself isn't a bad idea and it's nice that it exists. I just dislike how much it incentivises the developers to creat nothing but instanced content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    One doesn't need to try standing in a line and then being crammed into a box to know what having only Instanced content to do to know what Content finder will be like.

    I enjoy open world gameplay and both content finder and segregated servers fly in the face of having a world that feels alive. Why bother reworking the maps if we will never use them.
    Dude, you totally already know everything about ARR and what kind of content is going to be available to players?! Sweeet!!


    Oh, and, uh... since you obviously have a time machine, tell me... is the world really going to end on Dec 21st?
    Or if that's too hard, I'll settle for Monday night's winning Powerball #s. Thanks.
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