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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I could say the same about a global community, as you simultaniously make massive assumptions about what people will/wont do.
    Great. So how about you stop replying to me and I'll stop replying to you then
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    You are free to ignore me, but I came here to discuss things on the forums and discuss I will. I asked you a question and you answered, I then elaborated on why I feel your assumption are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    So everyone outside of your region doesn't speak english...oh man.
    You are taking a lot of what I say the wrong way maybe because it's a little abrasive, but that's okay. I'm more likely to understand some Spanish and French because that's what they teach in schools here and that's what I took. Also, I understand that with NA servers the EU community won't take much of a hit coming to one and that I should expect them.

    But let's be real here. Most EU speak english well enough to get points across. JP don't and it goes the same way around. Stop acting like there isn't a greater language barrier and that both sides don't feel like trying hard to communicate anymore. Cause that's the case.
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    So your both going to a regional server then?
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    Well, I know I'm going on a regional server, ( any probably most new players will probably go regional as well). NA Person: Okay I made everything now for the server... Which one.. NA JP or EU ( New player thinking). I would suspect they would choose NA. So in the end people will flock to NA ( at least the New players will).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    You are taking a lot of what I say the wrong way
    My point is that you said that you more or less can't speak with people outside of your region so what's the point?

    You seem to act like the only reason people want global servers is because of Japanese players, when it's not the case. There are people allover the globe that speak english and would like to be able to play the game on a server that has both people that speak their language and people who are actually online at the times they play.

    A english speaking person in Japan, Korea, or many parts that would fall under the closest for the Japanese region would be out of luck having either or. Pick a english speaking server and find it dead when you log on, pick a Japanese server and find yourself with next to nobody to play with due to language barriers. At least with global servers you tend to find more people to play with because everyone from everywhere is on one server.

    My argument at least isn't about the Japanese, it's about the global community (That is more than just NA, EU, JP regions) and the benifits that come from having players on your server 24/7 regardless of wether you actively interact with them or not they serve a purpose in the game much like they do in real life.

    Just because your sleeping doesn't mean the world stops turning and I like it when MMO's operate this way as well.
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    I like how your responce starlord, did not include "world" as an option.

    In fact, youve basically helped prove my point. If the options are EU/NA/JP, "new" NA people will pick NA, and most of you are claiming that NA people will still pick other servers, which is rediculous. If a world server is not an option, the population will not mix, it is basically region locked reguardless of what people say. SE is just pulling a R.kelly and calling it rain.
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    Last edited by Jeronlmo; 09-18-2012 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    My point is that you said that you more or less can't speak with people outside of your region so what's the point?

    You seem to act like the only reason people want global servers is because of Japanese players, when it's not the case. There are people allover the globe that speak english and would like to be able to play the game on a server that has both people that speak their language and people who are actually online at the times they play.

    A english speaking person in Japan, Korea, or many parts that would fall under the closest for the Japanese region would be out of luck having either or. Pick a english speaking server and find it dead when you log on, pick a Japanese server and find yourself with next to nobody to play with due to language barriers. At least with global servers you tend to find more people to play with because everyone from everywhere is on one server.

    My argument at least isn't about the Japanese, it's about the global community (That is more than just NA, EU, JP regions) and the benifits that come from having players on your server 24/7 regardless of wether you actively interact with them or not they serve a purpose in the game much like they do in real life.

    Just because your sleeping doesn't mean the world stops turning and I like it when MMO's operate this way as well.
    You seem to be under the impression that you'll be needing a group for most things, which I don't blame you for thinking being a FFXI vet, but you are more likely to do things solo aside from dungeons.... which is what content finder is for and it expands throughout all servers. Even PvP will expand throughout all servers.

    You're just asking for overcrowded servers filled with groups of people who don't even want to play with each other due to language barriers or fear of latency and if there isn't one [language barrier] there that's what content finder is for. You guys make it seem like you will never be able to play with people outside of your region ever again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    But a key point to consider is this:

    One of the most appealing and unique aspects of Final Fantasy XIV (and XI) that made them stand out from the other MMOs *is* that these Online Final Fantasies are GLOBAL.

    You encounter players from all over the world, and it's this cultural diversity that is one of THE most appealing things for me about this game (and for many others).


    Having Global Servers (NOT segregated) means that you can find players to do stuff with, or just chat and hang out, at ANY TIME OF THE DAY.
    One of the major issues today with the GLOBAL server is the lack of ability to support a GLOBAL population.

    One VERY important factor, even with ARR, is the server is going to be limited to 1000 players, or 2x of the current servers.

    If we break the world down to three major playing zones, USA, EU, Asia, we are now talking on avg of 300+ players being on at any given 8 hr period, and less then 200 players with existing servers.

    One benefit of having regional servers, especially for a server that can only serve a limited number of players, is at least you will have most of the 1000 players based close in time zones. So now you may actually have 600-800 players being on at once.

    IMHO, having MORE players in a region, will allows you to find more players to play with, because everyone on a given server are more likely to play around the same time, a global server limited to 1000 will not offer this.

    BTW, EVE-Online has a global server structure, and their player base is usually 25K+ on weekdays, and 40K+ on weekends, with their main market server limited to handle 1400 players. This was the stat when I used to play at least 1/2 year ago.

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    Basically, your saying your going to be mostly soloing... unless your not (aka dungeons). Thats true anywhere, unless you specifically mean leveling, which maby i could see depending greatly on how they do it (and I promise you dont have this information).

    "Content Finder" will be the gimp way of doing things, as in those people that cant get into endgame, its a horrible system, its anti-ls and will likely be used for "normal" mode dungeons, not hard modes, even in wow you cant do a dungeon finder for normal/heroic DS, its only for old dungeons that are out of date.

    People obviously do want to play with others from other time zones, hense the fact that these threads even exist, and again, your rolling back to talking about JP's without saying it, its not just about JP's, its EU's and people from other places, my ls has atleast 15+ EU members in it with a good 25+ NA. On 11 my ls had NA/EU/JP divisions and events ran around the clock, people from all 3 divisions bled into the other time zones.

    Reguardless of all of this, just do not play on a world server if they make them, it has nothing to do with you, at all, this does not effect you in any way, idc if you think it will fail, idc if your as racist as you all appear to be, I am not, and many others are not, i dont speak anything but english, but I manage to be in JP Garuda/hamlet/17min AV/CC's on a daily basis, around the clock, thats all this is about, we do not want 2-3hr prime times then the server dies.
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    Last edited by Jeronlmo; 09-18-2012 at 11:44 AM.

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