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    EVE is a completely different game and environment that was developed to be a very large and open galaxy. Latency doesn't have as much of a bearing during regular gameplay because of the slower pacing. It's a game that was designed for high latency and is very forgiving in that regard. You're naive to think that players don't complain about lag, especially during large battles; this is even when CCP adds additional servers to a node to handle the amount of load balancing and processing that needs to take place.

    Even then, EVE nodes have been known to crash due to load, which is why a lot of the time you get alliances/federations/fleets warning CCP ahead of time that they're going to hit somewhere hard and CCP will reinforce that particular system to help smooth out game play and prevent crashing.

    CCP's cluster system has evolved over years of invested millions in research, development, and hardware to help reduce server-side lag, and they're still continuing to do so. This is strictly for server side, players still have a marginally high ping to the server, but it's offset by the design of the game.

    X|V:ARR is designed to be fast paced where reaction time is important. There is nothing bad about giving players the option to play on a server that offers better response times just as there's nothing bad about having a few labeled as Global (I don't even think anyone is arguing against that idea anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    You were saying?
    I have the same question for you. I don't see the problem with the two quoted statements- Yes, a shooter and an MMORPG are also different kinds of games. However, this game is shifting in a faster direction with the changes to the combat system, and reaction times are going to become more and more important. FFXIV is going to have a greater need for low latency than a game like EVE, as described in the post above this one.
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    Funny thing is in the JP general discussion, there's only 1 thread about this and of the 1000 posts, most are saying this is a non issue. In fact the entire thread is mostly people posting their own opinions on the matter and little actual discussion on the matter on the whole.

    I can't say much for the other languages, but the JP at least see this to be a non-issue.

    edit: Because people who don't speak Japanese are invariably going to use Google Translate and get a skewed image of whats being said, here's the link so I can have more to laugh at.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%84%E3%81%A6
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoarLegion View Post
    Funny thing is in the JP general discussion, there's only 1 thread about this and of the 1000 posts, most are saying this is a non issue. In fact the entire thread is mostly people posting their own opinions on the matter and little actual discussion on the matter on the whole.

    I can't say much for the other languages, but the JP at least see this to be a non-issue.

    edit: Because people who don't speak Japanese are invariably going to use Google Translate and get a skewed image of whats being said, here's the link so I can have more to laugh at.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%84%E3%81%A6
    Of course they see this as a non issue. This situation perhaps benefits them even more than it benefits us.

    Buuut, question for you. Have any of them noticed the discussions over here and made any remarks at them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoarLegion View Post
    Funny thing is in the JP general discussion, there's only 1 thread about this and of the 1000 posts, most are saying this is a non issue. In fact the entire thread is mostly people posting their own opinions on the matter and little actual discussion on the matter on the whole.

    I can't say much for the other languages, but the JP at least see this to be a non-issue.

    edit: Because people who don't speak Japanese are invariably going to use Google Translate and get a skewed image of whats being said, here's the link so I can have more to laugh at.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%84%E3%81%A6
    I wish I was Japanese and lived in Japan, that way I can be with the "Sensible" people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Of course they see this as a non issue. This situation perhaps benefits them even more than it benefits us.

    Buuut, question for you. Have any of them noticed the discussions over here and made any remarks at them?
    Not that I've seen, but 1000+ posts in moon runes is a lot to get through(Praise be to Rikaichan). I went and checked their forums because I was curious given the amount of discussion over here.

    Honestly though I doubt if any of the JP have come and checked the English speaking forums, being 99% ethnically homogeneous keeps them pretty insular.
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    They dont care much because most of JP's work in a "JP ONRY" way. Getting rid of English/other-languages for them its actually good, altho theyr ppl that play at awkward hours will feel the diference when they dont have ppl to do certain missions (not exp pts since they are being abolished). Altho for me, as European, will have to still have latency, and join an BA server because i cant stand EU ppl talkin their 16 different languages and i havent had rly good experiences in EU only servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoarLegion View Post
    Funny thing is in the JP general discussion, there's only 1 thread about this and of the 1000 posts, most are saying this is a non issue. In fact the entire thread is mostly people posting their own opinions on the matter and little actual discussion on the matter on the whole.

    I can't say much for the other languages, but the JP at least see this to be a non-issue.

    edit: Because people who don't speak Japanese are invariably going to use Google Translate and get a skewed image of whats being said, here's the link so I can have more to laugh at.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%84%E3%81%A6
    You mean 10 posts. All previous posts were made prior the live. Sure they may have talked about global/separated server, but notice how no one on the JP forum is reacting to the announcement.

    10 posts. Says enough. No one care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I wish I was Japanese and lived in Japan, that way I can be with the "Sensible" people
    Sensible?

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzak View Post
    Sensible?

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!
    At least their forums don't have endless arguments and people attack one another. No wonder why they do "JP ORNY" XD LOL
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