Thread: If SE can't handle exploits now, why will they be able to in 2.0?

Originally Posted by Shougun

Exploits can be available to all players. And the event had unintended consequences.

Your definition of exploit is severely flawed.

No its not, because exploit would assume you have an advantage over someone which there is no advantage in this case when like I said, the event is available to everyone, hell I see low lvls all the time doing nothing

Originally Posted by Deli

The first question before all of these is...
How do I know it's design to play that way or it's cheating?

A little common sense would dictate that game mechanics probably WEREN'T designed for you to spend a lot of GC seals on an item just to vendor it for gil. Whether SE didn't anticipate how many seals people would accumulate or it was never intended that people were able to get more than one cluster isn't really known, but they dropped the ball.

Originally Posted by Eliseus

No its not, because exploit would assume you have an advantage over someone which there is no advantage in this case when like I said, the event is available to everyone, hell I see low lvls all the time doing nothing

You mean the people that have more time to play don't have an advantage over those that only have a couple hours a night to play?

Originally Posted by Eliseus

Who's fault is that though? Not the players farming the seals. That's like saying I exploited my darklight because you had to work IRL and I didn't. Even then though you can't say it was an exploit because it was readily available to you, you just chose to not do it because of work

But there was never anything wrong with darklight. (besides it had a crapass droprate) This is something that was only available for a certain window of time and the people that play 10 hours a day instead of 2 made out good from it. (see person who vendored 10mil worth of dawn drops)

By the way, don't take me too seriously. I was kinda poking fun at the OP with the whole "casual" argument.

Originally Posted by Orophin

But there was never anything wrong with darklight. (besides it had a crapass droprate) This is something that was only available for a certain window of time and the people that play 10 hours a day instead of 2 made out good from it. (see person who vendored 10mil worth of dawn drops)

By the way, don't take me too seriously. I was kinda poking fun at the OP with the whole "casual" argument.

ahhh lol sorry

Originally Posted by Eliseus

No its not, because exploit would assume you have an advantage over someone which there is no advantage in this case when like I said, the event is available to everyone, hell I see low lvls all the time doing nothing

Yes it is.

If I stand on a square in a room and get infinite exp and wasnt meant to happen by the devs its an expliot. You never hacked for it either.

Everyone could stand on that one spot, by your logic it isnt an exploit. By your logic nothing is an exploit unless is segregates, and that has nothing to do with the definition of an exploit.

However, telling what was meant by the devs and what was not can be hard. I will give that to you.

Originally Posted by Shougun

Yes it is.

If I stand on a square in a room and get infinite exp and wasnt meant to happen by the devs its an expliot. You never hacked for it either.

Everyone could stand on that one spot, by your logic it isnt an exploit. By your logic nothing is an exploit unless is segregates, and that has nothing to do with the definition of an exploit.

However, telling what was meant by the devs and what was not can be hard. I will give that to you.

It's different when a Dev comes out and actually says it was an exploit and when the player base of an MMO says its an exploit.

Originally Posted by Eliseus

It's different when a Dev comes out and actually says it was an exploit and when the player base of an MMO says its an exploit.

In the live QA thing they did recently they admit to taking down the NPC because it was creating unintended effects.

Whether they meant making gil from the system or just getting lots of seals it wasn't clear (to me at least).

But yes, there are probably a lot of things that are called exploits that aren't.