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    If SE can't handle exploits now, why will they be able to in 2.0?

    Even if 2.0 is the best game ever, it will end up falling apart and bleeding customers due to poor game management.

    Garuda was the best example of this.
    "Hey guys, please don't blackmage burn"
    everyone blackmage burns

    So after garuda's little exploit you had a ton of "hardcore" players with every weapon, and a fight that most people had no chance in. None of the hardcore players wanted to do garuda because, surprise surprise, they all exploited it and got all the weapons.

    The last few days has been no different.
    SE releases this atmos event
    Hardcore players (many who play non stop all day) exploit the system non stop, get 100s of thousesands of seals.

    SE changes the system, and now people get almost nothing.


    While I fully understand not wanting people to exploit the game, here is a tip: STOP THE EXPLOITS IMMEDIATELY

    Allowing some hardcore players to exploit to their delight and then screwing over casual players who may not be able to waste 24 hours of their life doing a repetitive event in one go is -NOT- a good policy.

    All it will do is scare people away from this game.

    So please, when 2.0 comes around, learn from the mistakes you have made OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again.

    To be honest I stopped caring about gear or achievements or anything in this game months ago as it became clear that the majority of hardcore players have botted and expploited their way to prominence.

    But I really want 2.0 to survive. and no one likes coming to a game on a friday night only to realize that their friends just got all the GC gear that they have spent 100+ hours grinding chocobos for, and now they can't even get the remaining gear without grinding another 100+ hours.

    At the moment SE's message to people is: "If theres an exploit, abuse it -as fast as you can- becasue we aren't going to do anything about it, and if you just wait you will end up with less gear and weaker than everyone else"

    And now if there will be a gear-score system, people will not want to be at a disadvantage.
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    The problem is SE was being generous and people abused, so now all they have to do is not be nice and generous and there won't be any abusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    The problem is SE was being generous and people abused, so now all they have to do is not be nice and generous and there won't be any abusing.
    Except that all the people who abused it got away with it
    Just like all the people who abused garuda got away with that
    Just like all the people that botted all their crafts to 50 got away with that (And I know at least 20 people on my server who openly admit it, have been reported to the GM for it, and still have their char. I even have screenshots of some discussing which bot is better and how to use them)

    Why would anyone want to play a game that essentially turns into a competition for gear when the majority of the player base is openly exploiting/cheating, and where people make a day free every patch so they can make sure they get to exploit whatever screwup there is before its fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Except that all the people who abused it got away with it
    Just like all the people who abused garuda got away with that
    Just like all the people that botted all their crafts to 50 got away with that (And I know at least 20 people on my server who openly admit it, have been reported to the GM for it, and still have their char. I even have screenshots of some discussing which bot is better and how to use them)

    Why would anyone want to play a game that essentially turns into a competition for gear when the majority of the player base is openly exploiting/cheating, and where people make a day free every patch so they can make sure they get to exploit whatever screwup there is before its fixed.
    ok wish they did allow us to use bots b4 nov1 to get our crafts up in levels but that wont happen " i dont cheat never have never will" others botting never botherd me ppl exploiting never bothered me you want to know what bothers me is the rmt ppl that cause excessive lag in some area's rmt that made se take away our gubu mounts and what relly irrataes me is that rmt is now abuseing the gc system they are getting choco's now i was crafting in the gc hall and i saw a group of they there and as for the elite's well they are not the imperial event proved it one had full darklight gear and a mog blade i had gc officers weapon and pld af which they say is crap i keept saving his arse cuz it was almost dead gear doesent matter its about skill and how you play in gw2 they made it the same way its about skill not they pretty armor
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
    ok wish they did allow us to use bots b4 nov1 to get our crafts up in levels but that wont happen " i dont cheat never have never will" others botting never botherd me ppl exploiting never bothered me you want to know what bothers me is the rmt ppl that cause excessive lag in some area's rmt that made se take away our gubu mounts and what relly irrataes me is that rmt is now abuseing the gc system they are getting choco's now i was crafting in the gc hall and i saw a group of they there and as for the elite's well they are not the imperial event proved it one had full darklight gear and a mog blade i had gc officers weapon and pld af which they say is crap i keept saving his arse cuz it was almost dead gear doesent matter its about skill and how you play in gw2 they made it the same way its about skill not they pretty armor
    Holy shitballs! There's these things called 'periods' that help the rest of us differentiate the ending of one idea and the start of another. What the heck are you even talking about anyway? lol. Musta been drunk or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    Holy shitballs! There's these things called 'periods' that help the rest of us differentiate the ending of one idea and the start of another. What the heck are you even talking about anyway? lol. Musta been drunk or something...
    periods are for the weak.
    i got what he was saying lol

    and i disagree with him. There is so little skill involved in this game. Everything is timing, not skill or planning. And half the problems arise from server lag. FFXI was skill, jobs had to actually do complicated things in a fight and often had to quickly switch up their role. This game is so static and simple though. Tank tanks, blms cast spells, brds shoot arrows and buffs. There is nothing overly difficult. Everything comes down to gear. If i equip a better bow and gear than another bard i will do more damage.

    Maybe gaming is devolving though and to most people this game is tough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Hardcore players (many who play non stop all day) exploit the system non stop, get 100s of thousesands of seals.

    Except this wasn't an exploit, the exploit was people spending those seals on something they can NPC for millions and millions of gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Except this wasn't an exploit, the exploit was people spending those seals on something they can NPC for millions and millions of gil.
    Which is fine, then you fix those gil prices and don't screw the community over on seals. If the seal droprate wasn't an exploit why would they fix it and piss a lot of people off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Except this wasn't an exploit, the exploit was people spending those seals on something they can NPC for millions and millions of gil.
    What are you talking about . . . What can you purchase with GC Seals and seal to a NPC for Millions of Gil. . . .

    As they say, Pics or it doesn't exist or don't make blind statements with no proof. . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy View Post
    What are you talking about . . . What can you purchase with GC Seals and seal to a NPC for Millions of Gil. . . .

    As they say, Pics or it doesn't exist or don't make blind statements with no proof. . . .
    50K GC seals. Purchase Dawn Drops, NPC them. You would end up with about ~4.4 Mil.
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