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    It is a personal preference.. I don't (and YOU don't believe it or not) need the entire population to speak the same language to progress effectively and enjoyably..
    It is NOT a personal preference. Ease of communication is always a benefit. it's not an absolute necessity, no. But it is unequivocally a pro and not a con. Nobody does not benefit from being able to communicate effectively with their parties. Unless you can explain to me the benefit of a language barrier on your gameplay.

    It's kind of like voice chat. It's always beneficial to have, but some people say "I don't need that." That doesn't mean it's not a benefit to have, they simply choose not to utilize that benefit.

    Again, I never said I didn't have lag.. But I appreciate you demonstrating that you clearly aren't reading.. so whatever..
    I read the whole thing. But I appreciate you insulting me nonetheless. I didn't say you didn't have lag. But you're claiming it doesn't affect you, when it does affect everyone. the principal reason for the lag is not specifically tied to regional servers, but that doesn't mean you should be making dubious claims. have you ever done ifrit? You can be off of a crack for like a whole second or more and still get hit by it. If that's never happened to you, then the only explanation is you've never done content where it is a serious issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It is NOT a personal preference. Ease of communication is always a benefit. it's not an absolute necessity, no. But it is unequivocally a pro and not a con. Nobody does not benefit from being able to communicate effectively with their parties.
    Who said it was a con?

    In response to your edit:
    I agree with the problem you listed about regional servers and in fact already said the same thing in my previous post. As I said, a NA server is the obvious only viable option for me unless I want to be drastically outnumbered or immersed (I used 90%+ as the general figure) by the predominant culture's language/timezone.

    There is a definite difference between "less busy" and "dead", but that is all relative to whatever that gamer is looking for. The point was that there will be a much more distinct peak and valley of the population on a regional vs. global server. If playing during high pop times is a preference of yours, hopefully your schedule will allow you to avoid the much larger valley created on a regional server. However, you could argue the same for a global server if you choose to exclude those outside your region (or are being excluded by them).

    I do not have the same issues you experience with global players. I've pug'd alot with JP/EU, possibly just because I had a crazy schedule and had the opportunity to. There's obviously a language issue sometimes but you've already weeded out the players who don't want to be bothered with it by joining a multi-lingual pt in the first place. I've got alot of stuff done.. moreso in XI actually. I may be a little more proactive than you and actually request an invite to a pt shout in JP, but it doesn't bother me if they aint interested. I get it, to each his own. I'd get it done w/ the next group, as we always do..

    I prefer global servers, but I get that they going to change that. Both work, I just had my preference and made my vote... I'll play on the NA regional data center with ARR because I want to play during a high pop time, and the only time I can play is when I'm off work and not sleeping.. I work typical govt hours and therefore sleep typical hours for NA EST.. my best shot at even being able to hit primetime is obviously the NA regional data center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    But I appreciate you insulting me nonetheless. I didn't say you didn't have lag.
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    I want your magical conneciton of lag-free-ness.
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    The current lag in the game isnt caused by latency and effects everyone. If you don't have it, you have some kind of magical power.
    I didn't insult you.. I'm just not sure how else to possibly interpret that..

    And now your claiming I must not have even done Ifrit...? K. I'm done.
    (For the record that was 'NO' again to the vote.)
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    I want data centers, but if feasible leaving a line up and a server designated global could alleviate some peoples issues.
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    You did insult me- you said "obviously you didn't read" when I did in fact read it, or I wouldn't have posted a response.

    (For the record that was 'NO' again to the vote.)
    Is this supposed to be some kind of punishment or something? lol... It's not like this is a binding poll, its just a fellow forumer looking for opinions.

    And now your claiming I must not have even done Ifrit...? K. I'm done.
    Quite simply- I don't see how anyone can have done fights like this and not notice the server response issues (this is about the server, not your ping) the game has right now. you have to understand how this just doesn't add up from the perspective of someone who's seen the issue affect many people. If there's one thing everyone can generally agree on, is that the 1.0 server system is horrible and slows response times down a lot more than it should.
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    I just hope everyone enjoys their whopping 70-150ms speedup in communication latency. what will they complain about when they get hit by cracks at ifrit when they are on a regional server?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    I just hope everyone enjoys their whopping 70-150ms speedup in communication latency. what will they complain about when they get hit by cracks at ifrit when they are on a regional server?
    At that point, it means they're bad by any definition.
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    These forums are hosted in Japan, and they feel pretty "lag free" to me. But I guess it's all a matter of perception.

    People always think "JP Only" means "Japanese Person Only." Naw they mean the language. They could care less where you are from. They just wanna know that you can follow instructions. That helps if you can read the stuff. If you can't well just keep your mouth shut and improvise cuz they won't know.

    It's spelled "ONLY" not "ONRY." Just how dumb do you want English players to look? Spell it the right way cuz otherwise you are just another a**hole.
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    These forums are hosted in Japan, and they feel pretty "lag free" to me. But I guess it's all a matter of perception.
    Lol? Forums are irrelevant when it comes to lag- you only interact with them when you want to load a page- your ping will only impact the time it takes before the page begins to load. Beyond that it's not going to load any faster or slower than any other web page.

    In a video game, you're constantly sending commands to a server and thus are constantly being affected by this delay. It's still a minor thing, but it matters more when it's constantly coming into play than when you're on something static like a web page.

    People always think "JP Only" means "Japanese Person Only."
    Actually, I don't think anybody thinks this. Where did you get this idea? That being said, Japanese isn't very widely spoken outside of Japan, so there isn't a whole lot of difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Actually, I don't think anybody thinks this. Where did you get this idea?
    I imagine they got this idea because half the people in this thread act like JP only is just means to call a entire group of people Xenophobic.

    Then again I still personally think the JP only or (Insirt language only) is a little played out and the small group of people who act this way are just rude in the first place. Then again everyone will pretend it's only Japanese players who tell people who don't speak their language to get out.
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