Summoner would not work with FFXIV current state.

[Vackashken]

Elaborate? xD

I was trying to leave a nebulous (lazy) comment ><

Honestly, its a story and stories can change through twist and turns that don't kill cannon. If you wanted to summon a summon that was a visual imagine of the creatures we have grown to know all so well through the years I don't think it would be that hard. It could be something similar in the vein of 11.

It would take a lot of writing, but you could do quest(s) that lead you to the point of being able to summon a piece of whatever summoned you've earned (through aforementioned quest). Like 11 (using 11 for brevity rather than wanting a clone of that system) you could summon an actual shiva, but in storyline wise its just a fraction of her power she has bestowed upon you. They (the summons) give the smallest of their ethereal essence to people deserving of their power to wield as they see fit.

If they're Gods then it makes sense for them (through the idea of summoner in the first place through general FF lore) to have Avatars or disciples of their power running around. A little writing can add a whole bunch of things.

[Aramil]

The funny thing about lore is that it can be changed and updated to do whatever the devs want it to do.

Lore is no reason not to do something.

The problem right now are the storyline quest. They would need to redo a huge part of it, same for some cutscenes if they would like to use classic summon like Ifrit for the summoner job.

However, just check this page: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Summons
If you take all the summons in account there are many more that FFXIV primals. Sure the one used as primal can't be summoned but that still leave a big list of usable summons.

[Jinrya-Geki]

It makes it seem like your guardian you choose at the start of the game, determines which deity you can summon. It seems to me like they will only let you summon on avatar as summoner. That would suck badly if it did.

[Winterclaw]

To add a summoner class, it would kind of have to be a new type, ignoring the main stream FF summons such as Ifrit, Shiva, etc...

No to that.

FF12 didn't have real summons. FF13's summons were messed up (transformers???). Let's not have screwed up summons 3 games in a row.

Bring back shiva and bahamut.

[Kazimir]

Well the game will not be staying in it's current state. They are changing a lot so from a battle stand point so we don't know if it'll work out or not in the future.

As far as lore goes, we don't really know all that much about Ifrit/Garuda etc. other than they are powerful beings and the beastmen worship them. Who's to say they can't bestow on us a little of their power?

[Aramil]

Well the game will not be staying in it's current state. They are changing a lot so from a battle stand point so we don't know if it'll work out or not in the future.

As far as lore goes, we don't really know all that much about Ifrit/Garuda etc. other than they are powerful beings and the beastmen worship them. Who's to say they can't bestow on us a little of their power?

The rank 38 quest kind of imply that a lot of primals won't agree to help you no matter what.

[Awgee0]

The sommoning feature of all the previous FF games is a big reason why they were such popular, creative, games. It was almost a FF signature based gameplay style we all loved, kinda like a trademark. I await the day that an MMORPG game comes out with pvp capability where players sommon collosal creatures like shiva and Ifrit. It is deffinately a missing element in the online versions of FF.

[Ranka]

No to that.

FF12 didn't have real summons. FF13's summons were messed up (transformers???). Let's not have screwed up summons 3 games in a row.

Bring back shiva and bahamut.

Agreed, with FF13, Just ment HOW they fought in combat, the transforming was stupid =.=

Now to many posts to reply on, but what I essentially mean ARE the primal summons, the main ones that were the epitome of their element. Those would more than likely not be usable due to the storyline quests, now other ones someone mentioned that were summons, but more towards minor ones that really had no representation would still be usable. The primal spirits loathe us in this game it seems, but that does not mean other classic summons would.

If we could summon primal summons then the game would lose all meaning to me, however if the storyline was changed(which I do not want it to be) or if we get minor summons, then it would fit with the lore of the game.

Well the game will not be staying in it's current state. They are changing a lot so from a battle stand point so we don't know if it'll work out or not in the future.

As far as lore goes, we don't really know all that much about Ifrit/Garuda etc. other than they are powerful beings and the beastmen worship them. Who's to say they can't bestow on us a little of their power?

We do know from the storyline missions they do not like us, now if the storyline DEVELOPS in such a way where summons would work with our character, only then can I see the summoning of primals. Like if summoner was added and we did a quest for it or a storyline quest where we agree to do something for a little of lets say their power for a short time. That would make sense so they would not have to change the lore in a drastic way. Unless the storyline changes/develops in such a fashion, it would just make this game less appealing for a lack of consistency in the lore/gameplay.

[Griss]

The rank 38 quest kind of imply that a lot of primals won't agree to help you no matter what.

Yea but the way ifrit was talking, it definitely gave me the impression of "If you roll with me, i will hook you up".

[Vackashken]

Yea but the way ifrit was talking, it definitely gave me the impression of "If you roll with me, i will hook you up".

Yep. Which is what any kind of "deity" would imply. There is oodles of room to add summoner into it.