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    Shiva - Ice
    Ifrit - Fire
    Leviathan - Water
    Ramuh - Lightning
    Titan - Earth.

    Nope, no FF IV elemental summons at all

    On topic though, it would take some creative storytelling to make Summoner a valid class in XIV. They are a key part to the lore, and it would fit, yet wouldn't all at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    It would work fine
    Elaborate? xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon View Post
    Shiva - Ice
    Ifrit - Fire
    Leviathan - Water
    Ramuh - Lightning
    Titan - Earth.

    Nope, no FF IV elemental summons at all

    On topic though, it would take some creative storytelling to make Summoner a valid class in XIV. They are a key part to the lore, and it would fit, yet wouldn't all at the same time.
    Ya its kind of odd how it works, they kind of set themselves up with a summoner class that will really be unique to this game if they do not change the storyline. Would really be interesting to see.
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    The funny thing about lore is that it can be changed and updated to do whatever the devs want it to do.

    Lore is no reason not to do something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    The funny thing about lore is that it can be changed and updated to do whatever the devs want it to do.

    Lore is no reason not to do something.
    The problem right now are the storyline quest. They would need to redo a huge part of it, same for some cutscenes if they would like to use classic summon like Ifrit for the summoner job.

    However, just check this page: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Summons
    If you take all the summons in account there are many more that FFXIV primals. Sure the one used as primal can't be summoned but that still leave a big list of usable summons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranka View Post
    Elaborate? xD
    I was trying to leave a nebulous (lazy) comment ><

    Honestly, its a story and stories can change through twist and turns that don't kill cannon. If you wanted to summon a summon that was a visual imagine of the creatures we have grown to know all so well through the years I don't think it would be that hard. It could be something similar in the vein of 11.

    It would take a lot of writing, but you could do quest(s) that lead you to the point of being able to summon a piece of whatever summoned you've earned (through aforementioned quest). Like 11 (using 11 for brevity rather than wanting a clone of that system) you could summon an actual shiva, but in storyline wise its just a fraction of her power she has bestowed upon you. They (the summons) give the smallest of their ethereal essence to people deserving of their power to wield as they see fit.

    If they're Gods then it makes sense for them (through the idea of summoner in the first place through general FF lore) to have Avatars or disciples of their power running around. A little writing can add a whole bunch of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    I was trying to leave a nebulous (lazy) comment ><

    Honestly, its a story and stories can change through twist and turns that don't kill cannon. If you wanted to summon a summon that was a visual imagine of the creatures we have grown to know all so well through the years I don't think it would be that hard. It could be something similar in the vein of 11.

    It would take a lot of writing, but you could do quest(s) that lead you to the point of being able to summon a piece of whatever summoned you've earned (through aforementioned quest). Like 11 (using 11 for brevity rather than wanting a clone of that system) you could summon an actual shiva, but in storyline wise its just a fraction of her power she has bestowed upon you. They (the summons) give the smallest of their ethereal essence to people deserving of their power to wield as they see fit.

    If they're Gods then it makes sense for them (through the idea of summoner in the first place through general FF lore) to have Avatars or disciples of their power running around. A little writing can add a whole bunch of things.
    You never elaborated... you never explained why you said it would work with our current battle system...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon View Post
    Shiva - Ice
    Ifrit - Fire
    Leviathan - Water
    Ramuh - Lightning
    Titan - Earth.

    Nope, no FF IV elemental summons at all

    On topic though, it would take some creative storytelling to make Summoner a valid class in XIV. They are a key part to the lore, and it would fit, yet wouldn't all at the same time.
    I was referring to summons like chocobo, sylph, asura, and so on. Think of the many espers in FFVI. There are generic elemental spirits in FFXI, also diabolos and alexander. There were other elemental deities in FFVIII like the lightning guy whatever his name was. So there are a lot of options besides those few primes.

    Story telling shouldn't be an issue if summoners are more like callers from FFIV and simply call monsters or spirits. But, again, I think the devs have lots of options either way.
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    Last edited by derekx; 03-31-2011 at 01:20 AM.