Summoner would not work with FFXIV current state.

[Ranka]

Now do not get my wrong, I would love to have a summoner class in this game, but with the current lore behind the game a summoner class would really not fit with the storyline. To add a summoner class, it would kind of have to be a new type, ignoring the main stream FF summons such as Ifrit, Shiva, etc... Maybe a spirit type summoning, where they are not the defined elemental spirits like shiva=ice ifrit=fire, but maybe somewhere lower up the ladder, but still powerful, something new.

As far as battle tactics with summoner as well as pets, I could see a similar system as FFXIII and FFXI dragoon where maybe the pet/summon(if applied to game) would do attacks that coordinate with your own. However, with the stamina system, being able to individual control a spirit as well as your character would prove difficult.

Does anyone else feel like summoner would not fit with the game in its current state? I do think pet classes in general would work just fine, but not so much a summoner class. Feels like they would need to alter the storyline for the summons to be implemented.

[derekx]

Depending on how creative the development team gets they can do pretty much anything. Being a new game, a summoner type class would likely have different mechanics. I don't think you'd see it the way it was done in FFXI even if there were no lore issues.

That said summons haven't always been elementals. In FFIV or (FF2 in the USA) summoner more or less just summoned monsters. And, yes, there were the normal elemental spirits in FFXI. I think pretty much anything can be done with the class and still feel very summoner like.

[Ranka]

Depending on how creative the development team gets they can do pretty much anything. Being a new game, a summoner type class would likely have different mechanics. I don't think you'd see it the way it was done in FFXI even if there were no lore issues.

That said summons haven't always been elementals. In FFIV or (FF2 in the USA) summoner more or less just summoned monsters. And, yes, there were the normal elemental spirits in FFXI. I think pretty much anything can be done with the class and still feel very summoner like.

Well ya I agree, if they do something along those lines it would work. What I am stating is the classic summons, Bahamut, Ifrit, Shiva, Odin, etc... Those would not work because of this games storyline. We would need different types of summons for summoner class to feel like it really belongs

[Speeral]

Well ya I agree, if they do something along those lines it would work. What I am stating is the classic summons, Bahamut, Ifrit, Shiva, Odin, etc... Those would not work because of this games storyline. We would need different types of summons for summoner class to feel like it really belongs

Well in the storyline we are told w might have the power to summon bc we saw ifrit take mercy on us in the cutscene and then shortly later we get told we might have that ability in us as long as we continue to develop. Bahamut could have been the dragon in the openning video, and if we are at war with the garleans as the story is suggesting a possible future truce with dragonkin could allow us to access their spirits. So far the story is very open allowing the dev team to go in a number of directions.

[Vackashken]

It would work fine

[Holy_Dragoon]

Shiva - Ice
Ifrit - Fire
Leviathan - Water
Ramuh - Lightning
Titan - Earth.

Nope, no FF IV elemental summons at all

On topic though, it would take some creative storytelling to make Summoner a valid class in XIV. They are a key part to the lore, and it would fit, yet wouldn't all at the same time.

[Ranka]

It would work fine

Elaborate? xD

Shiva - Ice
Ifrit - Fire
Leviathan - Water
Ramuh - Lightning
Titan - Earth.

Nope, no FF IV elemental summons at all

On topic though, it would take some creative storytelling to make Summoner a valid class in XIV. They are a key part to the lore, and it would fit, yet wouldn't all at the same time.

Ya its kind of odd how it works, they kind of set themselves up with a summoner class that will really be unique to this game if they do not change the storyline. Would really be interesting to see.

[Keyln]

The funny thing about lore is that it can be changed and updated to do whatever the devs want it to do.

Lore is no reason not to do something.

[Aramil]

The funny thing about lore is that it can be changed and updated to do whatever the devs want it to do.

Lore is no reason not to do something.

The problem right now are the storyline quest. They would need to redo a huge part of it, same for some cutscenes if they would like to use classic summon like Ifrit for the summoner job.

However, just check this page: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Summons
If you take all the summons in account there are many more that FFXIV primals. Sure the one used as primal can't be summoned but that still leave a big list of usable summons.

[Vackashken]

Elaborate? xD

I was trying to leave a nebulous (lazy) comment ><

Honestly, its a story and stories can change through twist and turns that don't kill cannon. If you wanted to summon a summon that was a visual imagine of the creatures we have grown to know all so well through the years I don't think it would be that hard. It could be something similar in the vein of 11.

It would take a lot of writing, but you could do quest(s) that lead you to the point of being able to summon a piece of whatever summoned you've earned (through aforementioned quest). Like 11 (using 11 for brevity rather than wanting a clone of that system) you could summon an actual shiva, but in storyline wise its just a fraction of her power she has bestowed upon you. They (the summons) give the smallest of their ethereal essence to people deserving of their power to wield as they see fit.

If they're Gods then it makes sense for them (through the idea of summoner in the first place through general FF lore) to have Avatars or disciples of their power running around. A little writing can add a whole bunch of things.