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  1. #971
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaLatte View Post
    You're making it sounds like global servers will not have enough of the people from the same regions to form their own end game groups.

    Global servers will have that end game groups you're speaking of + the luxury of having an active lively server at any point of time. The only con is the latency, basically.
    As long latency is the con, ppl that wanna do Endgame seriously will go to regional servers and not to a global one. So if they can't fix latency without splitting ppl to regional datacenters you will only have endgame groups in the primetime of the region in wich the server is located at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    As long latency is the con, ppl that wanna do Endgame seriously will go to regional servers and not to a global one. So if they can't fix latency without splitting ppl to regional datacenters you will only have endgame groups in the primetime of the region in wich the server is located at.
    I don't think end game is an issue here. I'm sure it's already the case even in global server that NA groups do their end game in NA prime time and JP groups do their end game in JP prime time.

    It's more for the time when it's outside your region's prime time. You'll be able to do non-end-game stuff at any time of the day (i.e. level up, quests, hang around and travel and can see people, doing events that require a large group of people, high level content that's not in the difficulty of the absolute end game content (i.e. moogle)).

    And in regards to latency, one thing I'm always confused about is why is reflex the way to make content hard. Can't they think of difficult content that require strategy instead of dodging fire on the ground within 1 sec kind of stuff?
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  3. #973
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    I won't say how rude some JP players have been towards me in game, but I will say this:

    WTF can't my 28 conjurer find a party on this so called global server ?
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  4. #974
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    ^ WTF can't you make your own instead of having to join one?
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  5. #975
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaLatte View Post
    I don't think end game is an issue here. I'm sure it's already the case even in global server that NA groups do their end game in NA prime time and JP groups do their end game in JP prime time.

    It's more for the time when it's outside your region's prime time. You'll be able to do non-end-game stuff at any time of the day (i.e. level up, quests, hang around and travel and can see people, doing events that require a large group of people, high level content that's not in the difficulty of the absolute end game content (i.e. moogle)).

    And in regards to latency, one thing I'm always confused about is why is reflex the way to make content hard. Can't they think of difficult content that require strategy instead of dodging fire on the ground within 1 sec kind of stuff?
    As long you have bad latency at global servers ppl will go on regional cause of Endgame. And the time when you didnt have to move during fights (like in most XI fights) are outdated. Movement is part of endgame content and the EU/NA delay can fuck this up.

    Its simple, SE only needs to fix latency for EU/NA and ppl will go on global servers.
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  6. #976
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaLatte View Post
    You're making it sounds like global servers will not have enough of the people from the same regions to form their own end game groups.

    Global servers will have that end game groups you're speaking of + the luxury of having an active lively server at any point of time. The only con is the latency, basically.
    Confirmed for playing in NA timezone. It's been almost 10 years since Europe have been screwed up on these so called "global servers". (talking about XI too)

    It was hell on XI to find a Linkshell that was right for you, endgame wise. Yes all Worlds had some EU shells, but the choice was really low, especially if you wanted to focus on a specific activity, you had way less choices or no choice at all.

    Right now XIV content is fine because it's 8 players max, so it's not as hard to find a decent EU dedicated group, then again, if you're not on Ragnarok it can be really hard.

    I don't care about playing on a server active at any point of time. The only thing that matters is the server to be active when I am online. What happen before and after I log out is irrelevant to me. And right now, there is no such luxury for EU players, barely able to play during their own Prime Time.

    If we ever get end-game involving 24 players on a regular basis (i.e. like Dynamis or "Raids" in other MMOs), I don't see "Global Servers" having more than ~2 decent EU raids. Which is a problem in itself as even if a group is "EU" their schedule may not be right for you. I play other titles in EU EN only servers and even there, not all raid group suits you.

    Parameters to take in consideration:

    - Level of progression (cannot join a group that is already too advanced gear wise)
    - Schedule (start and end of raid, need to be at home before start time and need the raid not to end too late, start time is usually the biggest issue though)
    - Frequency of raids (usually 3~5 nights a week, but some players cannot commit to 4 or 5 nights a week, so it makes it hard to join these group)
    - Stance toward endgame (casual, semi-hardcore, hardcore...)

    These 4 factors alone filter out easily half of guilds for some players. No need to restrict choices even more by adding timezone differences and languages issues. (I'm not even talking about latency here.)
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  7. #977
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    ^ WTF can't you make your own instead of having to join one?
    WTF can't i find my own party!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Confirmed for playing in NA timezone. It's been almost 10 years since Europe have been screwed up on these so called "global servers". (talking about XI too)

    It was hell on XI to find a Linkshell that was right for you, endgame wise. Yes all Worlds had some EU shells, but the choice was really low, especially if you wanted to focus on a specific activity, you had way less choices or no choice at all.

    Right now XIV content is fine because it's 8 players max, so it's not as hard to find a decent EU dedicated group, then again, if you're not on Ragnarok it can be really hard.

    I don't care about playing on a server active at any point of time. The only thing that matters is the server to be active when I am online. What happen before and after I log out is irrelevant to me. And right now, there is no such luxury for EU players, barely able to play during their own Prime Time.

    If we ever get end-game involving 24 players on a regular basis (i.e. like Dynamis or "Raids" in other MMOs), I don't see "Global Servers" having more than ~2 decent EU raids. Which is a problem in itself as even if a group is "EU" their schedule may not be right for you. I play other titles in EU EN only servers and even there, not all raid group suits you.

    Parameters to take in consideration:

    - Level of progression (cannot join a group that is already too advanced gear wise)
    - Schedule (start and end of raid, need to be at home before start time and need the raid not to end too late, start time is usually the biggest issue though)
    - Frequency of raids (usually 3~5 nights a week, but some players cannot commit to 4 or 5 nights a week, so it makes it hard to join these group)
    - Stance toward endgame (casual, semi-hardcore, hardcore...)

    These 4 factors alone filter out easily half of guilds for some players. No need to restrict choices even more by adding timezone differences and languages issues. (I'm not even talking about latency here.)
    Right now the issue is no one plays this game thus the low popularity. If ARR is successful and becomes popular, the servers will be populated with players from all regions - unless you're saying very low # of people from EU will play ARR so they all need to unite and play on the same server to make sure EU population is good.

    Edit: either way they're making regional servers. You'll get what you wanted and I'll miss the mix of cultures and i'll be prepared to not be able to do events like Atomos outside of peak hours.
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    Last edited by VanillaLatte; 09-26-2012 at 03:57 AM.

  9. #979
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimie View Post
    Why can't my 28 conjurer find a party on this so called global server ?
    Hey man, I'd love to play with you once I get the free time. We can do mites together near Nophica's Wells. Alright?
    Edit: Its kind of pointless to be complaining about it now, as the game is going to shut down in a few weeks, anyway. :|
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  10. #980
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaLatte View Post
    Right now the issue is no one plays this game thus the low popularity. If ARR is successful and becomes popular, the servers will be populated with players from all regions - unless you're saying very low # of people from EU will play ARR so they all need to unite and play on the same server to make sure EU population is good.

    Edit: either way they're making regional servers. You'll get what you wanted and I'll miss the mix of cultures and i'll be prepared to not be able to do events like Atomos outside of peak hours.
    You can't expect that all the ppl will suddenly start playing just cause ARR gets released, it will take time to get ppl back into the game. In this time you will have 1-2 EU endgame shells on a global server, and alot ppl will still have the problem that they might not find one that fits for them. Regional Servers will be specially for EU Player something that will help alot.
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