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  1. #941
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    Here's what is stupid about many comments here.

    First of all, I highly doubt people will even miss the various regional communities, because of the time zone that already SEGREGATES the masses.

    Secondly, most players here can't even communicate effectively in another language other than their own, so the whining and complaining is really silly.

    Thirdly, the game is undergoing a lot of change, so you cannot simply just take your current experience and translate it out looking forward to 2.0. If the game will introduce PvP where split-second timing is going to be critical, then you're going to regret not being able to choose a data center closer to where you live.

    Finally, SE is still allowing you a choice. Stop whining. Most MMO games pre-segregate you and some won't even allow you to register an account in another region due to IP blocking. Be glad you're getting anything at all.

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  2. #942
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia View Post
    Secondly, most players here can't even communicate effectively in another language other than their own, so the whining and complaining is really silly.
    Pretty much, even as someone that can communicate effectively in Japanese I couldn't give two shits about playing with them, even more so given the fact the majority of them don't want to play with us.

    Oh and someone mentioned it 15 pages back, but yeah, the majority of Japanese people are xenophobic, it's a phenomenon observable across their culture from the first Portuguese missionaries to present day. Japan is 99% ethnically homogenous, they have a strong ethnic solidarity and identity, so much to the point that even born-in-Japan Koreans/born-in-Japan mixed children(such as a Japanese and a non-Japanese's child) are often the target of exclusion and the Japanese's culture's passive ostracism.

    Hell, it's a common trait amongst most Asian nations, unless you're their brand of Asian, they hate you.
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  3. #943
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia View Post
    First of all, I highly doubt people will even miss the various regional communities, because of the time zone that already SEGREGATES the masses.
    Generalization = bad. There are people who play at off hours due to night shifts or travelling around the world. And playing with those communities is not the only need for them, think of all the potential buying power you're losing, for example

    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia View Post
    Secondly, most players here can't even communicate effectively in another language other than their own, so the whining and complaining is really silly.
    Actually, I believe the majority of users on the English forums are not native English speakers. The reason why other language forums are less active is not because there are less non-English players but because many just use the English ones instead.

    Thirdly, the game is undergoing a lot of change, so you cannot simply just take your current experience and translate it out looking forward to 2.0. If the game will introduce PvP where split-second timing is going to be critical, then you're going to regret not being able to choose a data center closer to where you live.
    Generalization again. Not everyone cares about PvP.

    Finally, SE is still allowing you a choice. Stop whining. Most MMO games pre-segregate you and some won't even allow you to register an account in another region due to IP blocking. Be glad you're getting anything at all.
    We're not "getting" anything. We're losing our global server community for a low decrease of latency (Low, because Yoshida said it himself, connecting to Japan from Germany was very responsive and smooth).
    But that doesn't seem to be an issue to you, since you seem too be concerned about being good at a game instead of playing it for fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoarLegion View Post
    Pretty much, even as someone that can communicate effectively in Japanese I couldn't give two shits about playing with them, even more so given the fact the majority of them don't want to play with us.
    If the majority cares about me not being of the same origin as them, then that majority can go to hell. Doesn't matter, which country's majority we're talking about here.

    I have few friends, but they are from all over the world, and yes, I even met some of them irl. I'll just stick with the minority.

    Even if you look past the upcoming segregation, global servers was something unique to FFMMOs, now they're killing one of their unique features while making the game more "standard". Which is not necessarily a bad thing in some areas, but what you have to ask yourself is, why would someone choose ffxiv which has a bad reputation if you can choose a game x that has the same features/gameplay which has a clean reputation? Being too unique is bad, but being standard is worse.
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  4. #944
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post

    Even if you look past the upcoming segregation, global servers was something unique to FFMMOs, now they're killing one of their unique features while making the game more "standard". Which is not necessarily a bad thing in some areas, but what you have to ask yourself is, why would someone choose ffxiv which has a bad reputation if you can choose a game x that has the same features/gameplay which has a clean reputation? Being too unique is bad, but being standard is worse.
    Except they're not being segregated, not in the least. There is no region locking, there is no "YOU CAN'T PLAY WITH THESE PEOPLE!" You pick what server you want to play on.

    How people keep missing this point is beyond me, apparently basic reading comprehension is outside the capabilities of most people.

    What SE is doing is in now ways segregation. Segregation belies lack of choice, of which there is none. If you want to play with a bunch of people that you can't actually understand, such is your choice.

    And while we're at it, global servers are hardly unique to FF. I have met more people in more places on shitty F2P MMOs than I had in 6 years of FFXI and my time on FFXIV combined.

    Being multi-national is in no ways unique, and this "feature" you're talking about isn't dying in the least. Please make use of more of your brain cells before making conclusions.
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  5. #945
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    Unlocked regional servers is far from Unique or new either. Ultima Online Did it ages ago!
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  6. #946
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    The only thing Global servers have against regional servers is to have people to play with during times is most reasonable with peoples time frames. That's the only pro I see in Global the cons are "Latency problems, Language Barriers, Possibility that Opposite Languages will deny you from playing with them ( Happened plenty of times with me), This game is having PvP in which the person closets to the server will have the advantages.

    I love Global servers I really do, its just playing a game when you get out~beaten by a person closest to the server is an "Unfair advantage" to me. with Regional Server I can at least have a fair fight for an NM or Mob Claim etc.

    Regional Servers= Boosts better and fair Gameplay
    Global Servers= Get to meet people all around the world ( though you can't understand them) and possible of losing in Claim wars for NMs/Primals etc ( I remember trying to get Okotes and I would lose every time Its within a Japanese time frame, and waiting for hours just to get one claim "fairly" isn't something I like to do.

    But Types of Servers has its advantages, but I prefer regional over global for many reasons.
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  7. #947
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Haste is already confirmed not to be added in game. At least it was a year ago. Who knows how much more decision making was made since then.
    I'd give my AF mini skirt for the spell haste... and i love my AF mini skirt
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  8. #948
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    Best that they keep haste out of the game. It rules all other stats and forces people to stack it over anything else.
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  9. #949
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    Right now, JP play with NA and NA play with JP because we share servers. A lot of people like it, others don't. I for one don't really mind, kinda like it. It's fine.

    When the servers separate by region, the JP friends that people have are gonna go on the JP server and the NA friends that people have are gonna go on NA. If the JP person wants to stay with their friend, they are forced to go into a full NA server and be not only laggy, but not able to understand the majority of everyone else. This is the same for NA.

    Not only that, there will be torn decision making. Some people are gonna want to play on JP, some are gonna wanna play on NA. Friends will be split up, there will be arguments, etc. I'm all for lower latency, and I don't really have a better solution, but the people saying "lol there's no problem if you wanna play with moonspeak go JP" just aren't thinking things through here.

    People complain about latency issues with Ifrit plumes and eruptions right now, and that's a simple "move out of the way" mechanic. 2.0 will be faster, and will require even more movement; we're going to need a lower latency to handle such mechanics reliably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Best that they keep haste out of the game. It rules all other stats and forces people to stack it over anything else.
    This depends on how each job plays. If you create jobs specifically around haste (DoT based jobs like SMN being one of them), then you can take haste into consideration as part of "the build" and determine BiS gear based on that. The only thing that allowed it to dominate other stats as much as it did in FFXI was the fact that all jobs were affected by blanket rules for everything. Haste just happen to benefit tons under that design.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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