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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    (I said 30ms, supposing the servers would be in the UK but it could be a bit more if it's in Germany or France...)
    Well S-E Europe HQ is in Wimbledon, so here's to hoping they've got a spare room in there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    And rightfully so. With the way devs want to go for boss fights/battles in general, Latency is a huge thing. Sure they can work around it, like they did with Garuda and Nael. But even those suffer from problems, and the dev team will never really be able to give us more challenging content, because they would have to work around the latency.

    If they just abolished the package loss, I'd be fine with sticking on a Japan-based server, even if there was some minor lag.
    They really only had to optimize servers well and let some reliance be on the client rather than the servers and that would eliminate a lot of problems right there, since this Atomos event is perfect example, gathering a lot of people makes the game itself unresponsive whereas in FFXI, I can function just fine even with as little as 220 people and as much as 700 (besieged), the only delay I've ever experience was the first few months which they somehow sorted out.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Actually, they are. But not very many MMOs emphasize on an international community. Which is one of the things I like about this game. The international communities will still be there, but they will be severed.
    Actually, they are not. It's all about your gear, your performance within your LS and how much time you spend farming items.

    If it was about the community, people would play the game for fun, not as their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    Well S-E Europe HQ is in Wimbledon, so here's to hoping they've got a spare room in there!
    Yeah I know it's in the UK, hence why. Being a Londonian and having Fiber Optic line, if the server is at SE HQ, it will be great for latency
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  5. #85
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    These are sad news. I hoped they would keep the servers international as in XI and the current XIV. It's a little something I always liked about them.

    Come to think of it, how come they were able to pull that off just fine in XI without nearly as much lag, yet they have to resort to this in XIV?
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    Last edited by Klefth; 09-15-2012 at 12:04 AM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire View Post
    You said nothing would change for him. In fact, a great deal will.

    ok, perhaps you missed my last sentence... I'll quote it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Yep. So if playing with Japanese players is important to you, stay on the Japanese region servers and nothing will change for you. Except for maybe a mass exodus of people in your region who would prefer less lag over playing with the Japanese.
    Anywho, not getting into this argument with you or anyone else, especially when it is a done deal.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    They really only had to optimize servers well and let some reliance be on the client rather than the servers and that would eliminate a lot of problems right there, since this Atomos event is perfect example, gathering a lot of people makes the game itself unresponsive whereas in FFXI, I can function just fine even with as little as 220 people and as much as 700 (besieged), the only delay I've ever experience was the first few months which they somehow sorted out.
    Aye, but SE is pretty adamant against client-side anything because of botting or hacking. Which is a silly reason, but whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Actually, they are not. It's all about your gear, your performance within your LS and how much time you spend farming items.

    If it was about the community, people would play the game for fun, not as their job.
    I played WoW for fun, of course I compared myself to other members in my guild, because I wanted to better myself. It was a challenge. I can play a video game for a challenge. RPGs in general are about gear. Better gear = better stats. Stats are what makes an RPG an RPG. Farming exists in all MMOs, maybe the genre isn't for you if you're so against it. This community sure does love it's overgeneralizations though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Aye, but SE is pretty adamant against client-side anything because of botting or hacking. Which is a silly reason, but whatever.
    They need to just deal with that stuff as it comes by, not make everything hard on everyone that cares. Most of the latency problems with XIV were because every action response was server dependant. This was talked about a long long time ago, why cant they get it through their heads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    They need to just deal with that stuff as it comes by, not make everything hard on everyone that cares.
    Specially since I can find at least 6 bots that will play this game for me atm :\
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    They need to just deal with that stuff as it comes by, not make everything hard on everyone that cares.
    Which is the route Yoshi-P seems to be going, by accepting user made content and a client-side UI. Tanaka was very much against all of this because of bots. Hell, he was against an auction house because of fucking RMT.
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