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  1. #851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    Japan is where they would likely be located, as they were for ff11, and ff14, its about new players, that is it, if a new player sees the options:
    NA
    NA
    JP
    JP
    EU
    EU
    If they are NA, they will go to NA, JP will go to JP, EU will go to EU, it will happen.

    If a ls that exist now goes to a JP server thats NA/EU (like mine), if will die over time, it just will, there will be little to no new NA/EU people, the same goes vise versa for any of the 3. The current population is to small to expect it to last any decent amount of time unless you never lose a single member for any reason, ever.

    All people have been asking for, stated throughout this thread many times, is for World servers, located in Japan, we dont care where its at, at all, if its listed as "Global" or something, people will know they can expect people from all 3 time zones.
    If you really want to play on a JP server and have a NA and EU LS, then you would have to recruit people cross server and get them to transfer to your server like how people recruit people cross server in WoW. But it would just make more sense to have a LS on a NA server.
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    We only have NA/EU because the population of the game is to small to have all 3, on 11 we did, and always had something going on, all day. We would gladly do it again.

    Just not getting the point... even wow (i know you can atleast relate), servers have about a 2-3hr prime time for major guilds, then the server dies outside of pickup groups and hundreds of people afk in major cities, which dont count. Going to a NA server means only having real events for about 2-3hrs, having a "Global" server means you can do things w/e you log on. It promotes larger ls's to keep that going.

    Edit: I really do not see why these people always seem so threatened by the idea of global servers, it does not affect you in any way, you can have your regional servers, who cares. The only reason I can really see is maby they know people would pick global?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    If you really want to play on a JP server and have a NA and EU LS, then you would have to recruit people cross server and get them to transfer to your server like how people recruit people cross server in WoW. But it would just make more sense to have a LS on a NA server.
    It's futile.

    They are impervious to such reasoning. They will insist on upholding their global servers dogmatically and anything but global servers for everyone will invariably ruin the game for them, no matter how flexible the alternative could be, or how much the connection environment could improve as a result of such changes.

    Yes, it's true that you'll invariably lose some contacts. You'll just have to treat this as new game like everybody is saying.
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  4. #854
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    Question: Where would/should a global server be located. please tell me the difference between calling it global or naming it after the region it is located in?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Its not about stability, it's about latency.

    But the only actual difference between "global" servers and "regional servers," beyond latency, is the label.
    This is exactly what i was trying to get at. it is merely a complaint about semantics at this point. people have said they dont care about regional servers as long as one is called "Global/international" and i think this is a silly thing to quibble over for 80+ pages. if what you are advocating for is to only have servers located in a single region and deny the ability to have closer servers all in the name of community then this kind of thinking will only harm the future of any game. you people are smart, smart enough to know that its the game its self that makes something great. look at WoW, they had regional servers, were they EVER harmed in doing that?
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  5. #855
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    if what you are advocating for is to only have servers located in a single region and deny the ability to have closer servers
    None of you can read, not saying get rid of regional servers, just have global as an option.

    This game will also never reach WoW's population, no games will, its the casual homeland, a game would have to be released and have more content day 1 to even have a chance. The fact that it doesnt hurt wow, it because of the fact its the casual homeland, people only play 1-3hrs a day generally, thats prime time, people played FF11 + FF14 because it was different, HNM/endgame ls's on 11 ran 24/7 and never ran out of things to do.
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  6. #856
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    Nobody should be taking the "primetime" arguments seriously.

    Bottomline is this is an mmo and people are on at all times. Unless the game is failing you have nobody to blame but the developers. Certainly not the new server structure as it has been explained to us.

    Just connect to the server that shares your "primetime" or if you rather only play odd hours, just do some research and choose the region that you find is more active around the time you prefer to play. I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    None of you can read, not saying get rid of regional servers, just have global as an option.
    They already told you. That server has to be located somewhere. Which means that you just really want a server with a "Global" label. That's all it comes down to.
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    I told YOU that, ive said it several times. If you do not lable it global, people will not mix, people will not expect people of their own language to be there at all. A JP server will be 95%+ JP, NA and EU will be the same situation, very small prime times will happen.
    Server list:
    NA
    NA
    EU
    EU
    JP
    JP
    Global
    Global

    This is literally what this entire thread is about, right up there.
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    Last edited by Jeronlmo; 09-21-2012 at 08:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    I told YOU that, ive said it several times. If you do not lable it global, people will not mix, people will not expect people of their own language to be there at all. A JP server will be 95%+ JP, NA and EU will be the same situation, very small prime times will happen.
    If people won't mix of their own free will, why are you trying to ochestrate ways to force them to?

    It seems to me that if the majority of people would not choose a server outside their region by default, naming it global isn't going to matter much since they will have a regional option that they are going to choose over anything else anyway. They just don't care about having a diverse community as much as you do. Those people who want to play with EUs or JPs or NAs are going to go to the appropriate server on their own without need for herding.

    Not opposed to the idea, I just think it is pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    I told YOU that, ive said it several times. If you do not lable it global, people will not mix,
    To the benefit of better connections overall and reduced lag in-game, which was one of the most requested improvements since 2.0 was announced.

    It's a tradeoff, a compromise... and it will happen. People asked for it and there's no turning back now. Time to sort things out with our friends.
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