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  1. #771
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    Shouts can pick and choose, raid finder is 100% random. In your ifrit group you should have checked peoples gear or added in the shout "must be experienced", if it wasnt your party, make your own.
    Majority of people don't do that and take anyone who sends them a tell.
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  2. #772
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    I do.
    Thats not the games fault... thats just low standards of the party lead... or just being lazy. I would rather sit in uldah 7/8 shouting then go to garuda knowing im going to lose, the time your losing you could have found a decent player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    Thats not the games fault... thats just low standards of the party lead... or just being lazy. I would rather sit in uldah 7/8 shouting then go to garuda knowing im going to lose, the time your losing you could have found a decent player.
    So welcoming and open...

    I guess you don't help random pugs with Nael or Always Bet On Black either, right?

    PS: The gear "standard" isn't as high as you're trying to make it seem. Not to mention, if players can't do the content they're never going to learn the mechanics. In this case those that know should be willing to help those that don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Just wondering what do people say after you check their gear and say, "Sorry you can't come your gear isn't good enough." and kick them.
    I don't think I've done anything like that to anyone in this game. The only time I've ever kicked anyone from a group for gear was in a Naxx 25 run with a death knight that was wearing INT plate and an "of the Owl" weapon. This is after we told him he should be gearing for STR and STA not because we're being mean, but because his class is designed to benefit from STR and STA and gains nothing from INT.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 09-17-2012 at 10:46 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  4. #774
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    I do.
    Thats not the games fault... thats just low standards of the party lead... or just being lazy. I would rather sit in uldah 7/8 shouting then go to garuda knowing im going to lose, the time your losing you could have found a decent player.
    Just wondering what do people say after you check their gear and say, "Sorry you can't come your gear isn't good enough." and kick them.
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  5. #775
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    My ls does events for atleast 10hrs a day, if you want help, apply. No I do not answer every single shout in my free time for events I do not need. I'm sorry?

    Edit: Though lastnight i did kill buffalo at 5am with a JP group for no reason, they were doing GC rank up or something. Very bored.

    I also check gear before I invite in the rare occasion I actually shout. Its less offencive apparently.

    Taking a gear check as offencive is really kinda new... that is standard endgame anywhere, and when I rarely do shouts, I kinda bring it there. Not like I expect double/triple melds, if someone is on BLM and wearing a felt cavalier's hat, but without even a single meld, you put no effort into your job, and I have no interest in lettting you leech from me, or my party.
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    Last edited by Jeronlmo; 09-17-2012 at 10:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    The gear "standard" isn't as high as you're trying to point it out. Not to mention, if players can't do the content they're never going to learn the mechanics. In this case those that know should be willing to help those that don't.
    There are difference between newbies and noobs, people doesnt like noobs in parties. Noobs usually gears like a retard, gears like a retard = have no idea about his class.
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  7. #777
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    I been thinking about this Data Centers things, didn't they said something that data centers are links to the servers and all, has no one think that the Data Center May be in USA for example and the server its linked is in japan? or something like that? Data Centers from what i have read aren't Servers but platforms that allow for less lag allowing certain actions be done in the Data Centers instead of the Server, forgive me if am wrong but that's what I believe/hope/ will happen.
    Also I hope new servers were people pre~ARR wont be able to transfer to newbie servers since that would really screw up things for player that want a full fresh start
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  8. #778
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    No, the data centers in the US will only be connected to US servers, and the same goes for other regions, they are still claiming them as "world servers" because they give you the option to connect to an EU/JP data center/server. The only true issue is the lable they are giving the servers, if there are atleast a few "Global Servers" the issue will go away, reguardless of where these servers are located. It has nothing to do with the current playerbase, they have friends/ls's/connections to people currently playing, its 100% about new players, if all you see is a list
    NA
    NA
    EU
    EU
    JP
    JP
    as the server list, they will 100% pick the server that relates to them expecting every other choice will have people they cant play with because of server prime times and language barriers. As a NA/EU ls myself, going to say a JP server which i would prefer, might let us survive for awile, but over the years with people getting new jobs, going to college, or just quiting the game, there will be no new NA/EU people to invite of a JP specific server and any EU/NA ls would eventually die.
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  9. #779
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavinia View Post
    I been thinking about this Data Centers things, didn't they said something that data centers are links to the servers and all, has no one think that the Data Center May be in USA for example and the server its linked is in japan? or something like that? Data Centers from what i have read aren't Servers but platforms that allow for less lag allowing certain actions be done in the Data Centers instead of the Server, forgive me if am wrong but that's what I believe/hope/ will happen.
    Also I hope new servers were people pre~ARR wont be able to transfer to newbie servers since that would really screw up things for player that want a full fresh start
    A data center is a place that houses servers. It could be a building it could be a room in SEs offices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavinia View Post
    I been thinking about this Data Centers things, didn't they said something that data centers are links to the servers and all, has no one think that the Data Center May be in USA for example and the server its linked is in japan? or something like that? Data Centers from what i have read aren't Servers but platforms that allow for less lag allowing certain actions be done in the Data Centers instead of the Server, forgive me if am wrong but that's what I believe/hope/ will happen.
    Also I hope new servers were people pre~ARR wont be able to transfer to newbie servers since that would really screw up things for player that want a full fresh start
    That's not how it works. You don't understand what a "data center" is.

    A data center is a building where server equipment is housed. The servers are physically located inside these data centers. A data center is not a "gateway" to some far off server.
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