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  1. #191
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    Worst News Ever

    I had to read the first post multiple times to be sure I didn't misunderstand it.

    By doing this “data centers” thing it's clear that most of the adventurers will choose the one closer to them, thus splitting the community.

    I'm in Europe and just a while ago I defeated Garuda Hard for my very first time with a group of japanese friends and I was /happy of it. Then I read this...

    I play most of the times with japanese adventurers, but I also know several from the Unites States, Europe and elsewhere, so...

    This news reminds me of the original server merge idea, where everyone could choose their new server, therefore splitting the community. Then Yoshida-san realized it wasn't the best solution and luckily changed plans.

    For A Realm Reborn I was hoping we would still be all together, not being separated by language (let's not be blind, because that's going to be the evident outcome).

    Ifrit's Eruptions? The hells of it, I had a blast every time an adventurer blew up cursing the lag, and we would win anyway!

    The dev team could create battles not dependant on lag, like the excellent one versus Nael van Darnus, but once again they decide to split the community... because that's what's gonna happen with these regional data centers.

    I hope Yoshida-san will have once again the common sense to better think about this decision, like he did in the past with Server Merges...
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    3: seperate servers, would only be to make segragationists aka closet racists feel better. Comments like "I dont have to read japanese chat on my screen"
    Not me.

    I had a lot of fun getting JP's to craft certain equipment for me because they were the only one's available to do so early on in 1.0.

    So it was all about shouting in Japanese to get their attention, looking up the Japanese names of the items and terms to copy paste them on tells, together with using the translate feature. Hardly ideal, but it was a blast.

    And that's just an example, and it's okay of I lose that in exchange for a legitimate improvement to the game environment. Just because you want separate servers doesn't mean you're a racist.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    This.



    This.



    And even this. We are going to have standard of every MMO plus you can still choose JP server. Stop crying
    Agree with that

    thanks Yoshida team
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    To: Yoshida-san, Bayohne and the FF XIV Dev Team,

    By officially designating various Servers as "U.S." or "EU" or "Japan", even if you're only talking about the Data and not Language,

    You WILL be indirectly causing Segregation of the Final Fantasy Community!

    One of the greatest appeals of Final Fantasy XIV (and in XI) is the diverse, multicultural player base.

    Playing with players around the world! I've met wonderful players from around the world, from Japan, Australia, Europe and North and South America.

    It's one of the things that makes Final Fantasy XIV (and XI) *unique* from all the other MMOs out there.
    As limited as your Auto-Translator is, people were still able to communicate, and you had players ONLINE at all times of the day and night (because of the World Servers).

    By officially listing Servers in 2.0 as being "North America" or "Europe" or "Japan" etc., you're basically going to cause SEGREGATION.

    Of course we can just choose a server in another region to try and retain some international feel, but there will be a good portion of the player base that will choose Lag Free over Community.

    So you'll end up with Servers with High Activity during "Prime Time" hours in their region only, and it'll be DEAD at all other times of the day.

    So for anyone wanting to play during odd hours (mornings, late at night, etc.), with your Regional Servers, you're indirectly highlighting how EMPTY a server can be as well.

    It's fantastic to have Global Servers (No Designation of Country) to have activity at all times of the day and have a diverse player base on the Server.

    I hope Yoshida-san reconsiders the Designation / Setup for this.

    This is very disappointing news if you let it continue this way into 2.0.
    Yea, we'll see how people enjoy ghost towns when everyone segragates themselves. Since its 'optional', it wont SE doing the segragating, it will be the players themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darshu View Post
    It's no use, they only like to scream and shout, and not listen. You can bold letters all you fucking want, but you're the one that's not paying enough attention. "Just tell your friends to join the same server" does not and will not work, shut up and stop proposing that as an easy solution to this.

    If after everything people have said here you still cannot see how people WILL lose friends when you have to pick servers, then you're an idiot. Hurray for all of you that will have your lag free server to play on. Now allow us to cry when it isn't that much of an issue for us, but losing players from other regions is.
    you do realise that if you lose some friends becuase they changed servers its because they value lower latency over thier LS or you as a friend.

    dont you think this kind of defeats your whole argument?
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darshu View Post
    It's no use, they only like to scream and shout, and not listen. You can bold letters all you fucking want, but you're the one that's not paying enough attention. "Just tell your friends to join the same server" does not and will not work, shut up and stop proposing that as an easy solution to this.

    If after everything people have said here you still cannot see how people WILL lose friends when you have to pick servers, then you're an idiot. Hurray for all of you that will have your lag free server to play on. Now allow us to cry when it isn't that much of an issue for us, but losing players from other regions is.
    I wouldn't have been so harsh but i'm amused how some people can't see the entire tree istead of the single leaf..
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  7. #197
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    don't forget "content finder" tool

    you can play with other with that, all the time
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    If you "dont want to have to read other langauges on your screen" you probably have some kind of racist veiws you might not even know you have. which is why I used 'Closet Racist'. And is why I used that comment as an example of that term.
    I am sorry that is just stupid logic. It is not racist, just because it is easier and quicker to communicate without having to take the time to translate what someone said or what you must say to someone else. I am learning Japanese at my University in Japan, so I can communicate in it and possibly get a job here. Guess what though, when I play a game I want to take it easy and not think overly hard on getting languages right so I will play with people that speak my language because it takes less brain power. So by your logic that makes me a "closet racist"? gtfo with that logic, my girlfriend is Japanese and I love learning and trying to talk Japanese with her. But because I want to speak english in game and only deal with it makes me a "closet racist" I am offended.
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  9. #199
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    People claiming servers will be dead at certain times: Have you ever played any other major MMO? There are people that play at all hours of the day. North america in particular spans several time zones, so there's only a few hours like between 6a-10a eastern where it would be particularly slow. I know on non work days I can often be up til 4am and then it's only 1am for ppl on the west coast, even earlier if you happen to be in Alaska or Hawaii.
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  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you want to be surrounded by the sights and sounds of Japanese, just make a character on a JP server. Everyone, no matter which kind of susbcription/type of account they have, has the ability to create at least one character on every server.

    I actually don't think they would have done this if it was still the buy each character system.
    Don't be so small minded. Its not an issue of being surrounded by Japanese writings/sounds, its an issue for those of us who have friends all over the world. To those who only play with EN or a certain region, that's fine that's your choice but there are those of us who have friends who are from different regions. I have friends who i played with since XI days, so we been playing for more then 8-9 years now and with this news, we'll most likely get separated. Since only a few of us from XI LS remained after the XIV fail launch, many of us have different LS, my FR & JP friends have LS for their time zones too but we still PT and do stuff, i can't ask them to leave their other friends/LS to come play on whatever server i choose. How would u feel if you were told suddenly you can't play with the friends you have been playing with for the last few years.
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    Last edited by Shura; 09-15-2012 at 01:19 AM.

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