ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Punainen]

Give it away, buy stuff, or put it on retainers or an alt. However, Reinheart's translation of the answer to that question made it seem like all of our gil would be reduced, not that the cap would be reduced.

[BotenAnna]

This thread has taught me something important, and it is that people who play MMOs are really freakin' bad at basic macroeconomics.

[Azurymber]

This thread has taught me something important, and it is that people who play MMOs are really freakin' bad at basic macroeconomics.

agreed... mind you, so are the devs.

[NoctisUmbra]

I'm pretty sure, based on Bayohne's wording as well as Reinheart's translation, that they are changing the scale of the currency so to speak by dropping a digit rather than simply lowering the cap.

Everything will cost 10x from NPCs and everyone will have 10x less gil than they do now so effectively nothing will have changed besides the inflation of Gil values.

[Resheph]

You make more money then I ever could so you must be up to something! Wat.

Thank you for reducing my post to a statement I didn't make at all. It's not a "you have more than me, so you must be cheating" remark as much as a "Why would anyone playing legitimately see the need to carry that much gil around without spending it in some way?" What would the point really be?

I craft, mine, farm, and do all sorts of things that make money. I can pull in the gil, and I've got plenty of expensive gear in addition to what I have to spend. I would think that most players (esp legitimate ones) that have a lot of wealth, or the potential to generate a lot of gil, have more wealth in the items they hold than actual gil reserves.

But I don't have so much that, onoes, SE reducing the max amount of gil I can horde would actually affect me. I guess if you have a really deep and absorbent poop sock, no life, or responsibilities you could exceed the retarded amount of 99,999,999 gil and actually be affected by this change, but I really only thought that botters and gil sellers would have that kind of cheddar.

High five if you do, I guess?

[darkstarpoet1]

Thank you for reducing my post to a statement I didn't make at all. It's not a "you have more than me, so you must be cheating" remark as much as a "Why would anyone playing legitimately see the need to carry that much gil around without spending it in some way?" What would the point really be?

I craft, mine, farm, and do all sorts of things that make money. I can pull in the gil, and I've got plenty of expensive gear in addition to what I have to spend. I would think that most players (esp legitimate ones) that have a lot of wealth, or the potential to generate a lot of gil, have more wealth in the items they hold than actual gil reserves.

But I don't have so much that, onoes, SE reducing the max amount of gil I can horde would actually affect me. I guess if you have a really deep and absorbent poop sock, no life, or responsibilities you could exceed the retarded amount of 99,999,999 gil and actually be affected by this change, but I really only thought that botters and gil sellers would have that kind of cheddar.

High five if you do, I guess?

lmfao you act like 100 mil is hard to make.

this game has been out almost 2 full years now. since it's not complete 2 years and people don't play daily let's take a look at how much people would have to make a day to be over the 100mil target.

let's say you have played 500 days out of the 2 years the game has been out. to be sitting at 100mil you only have to have added 200k per day you have played to be above that. when i go out and farm materials or make gear to put on the wards it is very easy to make 3mil+ a day. also, you must realize that people that have a massive amount of gil are usually self sufficient and don't have the need to buy anything from the wards if they don't want to.

now let's also take into account that alot of people that have a massive amount of gil are already capped on every class and have them all geared up. for them to stay in game and playing about the only thing left is to sit and make gil. i've had all classes capped since november of last year, but been in game almost a year since i capped them. most of the time i am running content, but during down times i'll farm a few stacks of skins or mine a few stacks of ores. just a few hours of farming makes wayyyyyyyyy over the 200k i mentioned earlier needed to already be above the 100mil mark.

like i said you act like making gil is difficult when it is easy to make 1mil+ daily for the average player if they were willing to put in the time to do the work.

[Natabant]

This to me sounds like they're just reducing max gil limit, NOT reducing everyone's gil to 10% of what it was in 1.0. Note he says "max digit" not divide player's max gil by 10. The currect max gil you can earn is 999,999,999. The 2.0 max will be 99,999,999. Also, he starts off the statement by saying THERE WON'T BE A GIL WIPE. I think losing 90% of all player's money qualifies as a gil wipe... so I'm pretty sure it won't be done. My two cents.

^This. I don't think SE is dumb enough to take a huge portion of peoples gil away from them, it would probably lose them a lot of customers. I think that anyone with over 99,999,999 will just have their extra gil given to the same npc that will hold all of our items over 100 at the start of 2.0, but that's just my guess.

[Raikki]

I guess if you have a really deep and absorbent poop sock, no life, or responsibilities you could exceed the retarded amount of 99,999,999 gil and actually be affected by this change, but I really only thought that botters and gil sellers would have that kind of cheddar.

High five if you do, I guess?

What MMO thread is complete without the "anyone with more gil/gear/experience/skill/whatever than I have is a no-life haha what a loser" post? Thank you for rounding out the thread, sir.

[PandaTaru]

lmfao you act like 100 mil is hard to make.

this game has been out almost 2 full years now. since it's not complete 2 years and people don't play daily let's take a look at how much people would have to make a day to be over the 100mil target.
[...]

Watch the same people cry their mom and dad on this forum once SE reduce the total gil that it's harder to make gil and it's SE fault if they have to rely on RMT to get gil. (FFXI-RMT syndrome anyone?)

[NoctisUmbra]

^This. I don't think SE is dumb enough to take a huge portion of peoples gil away from them, it would probably lose them a lot of customers. I think that anyone with over 99,999,999 will just have their extra gil given to the same npc that will hold all of our items over 100 at the start of 2.0, but that's just my guess.

A 90% reduction to the currency as a whole is not "taking gil away." It is a measure against overly-inflated values.

Nobody loses wealth, the way their wealth is numerically represented is changed.