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  1. #711
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    You act as if this redenomination is the only thing that would drive the price on goods down. You know, here in the US, the value of a dollar went down. Did the price on goods go down? NOPE. They went up.
    What you are challenging as redenomination is exactly the opposite.

    Inflation: Value of dollar drops, so the quantity of dollars must be increased in order to purchase the same goods.

    Deflation (can be artificially created through redenomination): Value of dollar increases drastically, so number of dollars needed to purchase the same goods is reduced.
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  2. #712
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deakka View Post
    For those who are afraid of prices remaining at 1.0 levels, this is likely the scenario:

    Gillionaire hoards crafting materials in order to amass profit come 2.0

    Gillionaire, upon 2.0 release, sets the "standard" prices as they were in 1.0 or higher

    New player #1 enters the game. Sadly he's a bit new, so he thinks market prices are the true value of an item

    New player #1 pays the current market rate, providing Gillionaire a sizeable profit (in terms of constant currency).
    Except, ya know, New player #1 isn't going to have the money amassed to pay what things used to cost. Market history is probably going to be wiped anyway, so you'd have to actually track all the old prices of everything and HOPE someone buys things at the exorbitant rates.

    Real scenario is veteran player hoards materials and dominates the market early on, albeit at a much smaller value than 1.0, until others contribute to the market where competition will then occur and prices will shift to a realistic number.

    I think as Yoshi-P pointed out, the best thing you can do with your money right now is nothing. Keep amassing it, because the more you have now, the more you'll still have in 2.0. I have 10 million right now. If I make it to 20 million before Nov 1st, I'll have 2 mil instead of 1 mil in 2.0.
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    Last edited by Orophin; 09-19-2012 at 07:53 AM.

  3. #713
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    What you are challenging as redenomination is exactly the opposite.

    Inflation: Value of dollar drops, so the quantity of dollars must be increased in order to purchase the same goods.

    Deflation (can be artificially created through redenomination): Value of dollar increases drastically, so number of dollars needed to purchase the same goods is reduced.
    Like medicine for my brain after reading through Dubont's posts.
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  4. #714
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I'll be at much much less gil than I have now while the people who have over 100mil will still be able to afford just about anything.
    Pro-tip: sell stuff to the guy with over 100mil that will still be able to afford just about anything.
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  5. #715
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    When I first read that they were going to screw around with the gil, I had to admit I was pretty narked about it.

    omfgwtfbbq How dare they take my gil!

    But now after thought and consideration and getting over the shock of not having crazy huge numbers in my wallet, I'm honestly not that fussed. I think it's a great change.
    I rarely buy from NPC because the prices are so crazy (20k+ for a lv12 tool? nowai!), but if everything's getting redone price-wise in 2.0 it's going to make things so much better. Much less painful for me as a CUL when I rely heavily on NPCs for certain materials, I mean.... who wants to pay over 2k for a cabbage? Not me! lol

    I miss XI's economy. Granted, farming was a total ball-ache (or an ovary-ache if like me you lack testicles) but I have to admit it was a much more rewarding process instead of like now you merely have to wink and an NPC and you get a gilbath.
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    Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means

  6. #716
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    THERE'S NO LOGIC! We're losing money and the only prices that are going to be forced to adjust are NPC prices. Player prices will stay the same. How do I know this? They haven't changed much since launch, why would they change now? Putting too much faith in the players will do nothing for you.
    Obviously you prefer to sit here and complain about this logic or no logic makes no difference the gil drop is going to happen your complaining is not going to change that fact so just deal with it
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  7. #717
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Like medicine for my brain after reading through Dubont's posts.
    Nice sig. I'm going to ask that you change it though
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

  8. #718
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Nice sig. I'm going to ask that you change it though
    The we're going to have to ask you to stop being an idiot.
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  9. #719
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Too much faith in the players. Move along.
    Too many posts on the forums would seem as if you play the forums more than you play the actually game give it a rest already there is not a single thing you can do except quit the game and unless your going to do that then stop complaining


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    you troll the forums obviously can tell by the amount of posts you currently have no one cares about your insignifagence
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  10. #720
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    The we're going to have to ask you to stop being an idiot.
    I'm not the idiot here. I've seen these markets since launch. Nothing has changed and I doubt that it will change at 2.0. My statement still stands. Though, thanks for showing me that the majority of players in this game are about the same level of intelligence as WoW players.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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