ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[KadeDoom]

Spoiler: Your nest egg will be (relatively speaking, not literally) the same size in 2.0! Congrats!

Yo fool, if you have 100 mil in gil and it changes to 10 mil there is a 90 mil difference, I am losing 90 mil, or do you not see this? I am not a math scholar, but even I can see I will be losing gil that I played hard for. You can say what you want, and try to justify nothing is being lost, "it'll be the same in v2.0", its not there is loss, and major waste of countless hours in game earning it all.

[Aion]

Yo fool, if you have 100 mil in gil and it changes to 10 mil there is a 90 mil difference, I am losing 90 mil, or do you not see this? I am not a math scholar, but even I can see I will be losing gil that I played hard for. You can say what you want, and try to justify nothing is being lost, "it'll be the same in v2.0", its not there is loss, and major waste of countless hours in game earning it all.

you understand math but not economy

[KadeDoom]

you understand math but not economy

You understand the forums but have yet to complete all combat and magic r50, so after you spend time on here equivalent from the CE release to now accumulating things then say something about loss or gain.

[Duuude007]

You understand the forums but have yet to complete all combat and magic r50, so after you spend time on here equivalent from the CE release to now accumulating things then say something about loss or gain.

You understand math, but not economy.

[Mireille]

you understand math but not economy

Here I think you are missing the basic point that a person having invested a certain amount of time in the goal of earning X amount by the launch of 2.0 might not find that same time investment a worthwhile trade for the lesser sum even though that lesser sum has the same buying power. I think most of us get that its exactly the same as if they reduced the level cap from 99 to 10, and then reduced us all from 50 to 5. If they change all the mob levels commensurately its as if you are still a level 50 at level 5. I do understand that both logically and mathematically, but the point that you are missing is that if I had known up front this was going to happen I would have spent a large part of the last two years on other in game goals, and I would have spent more of the gil I was saving instead of making do with normal quality crafted gear in the name of that saving. I passed up doing other things like avatars and dungeons to make that gil, and that just became a poor trade. Yes even though the gil I am left with can in theory buy as much.

What I am saying may not be popular, but I haven't been uncivil in this to anyone who wasn't uncivil to me. In my two years on these forums I have made it a point to be both nice, and understanding towards other posters and SE.

[TimonLoon]

Here I think you are missing the basic point that a person having invested a certain amount of time in the goal of earning X amount by the launch of 2.0 might not find that same time investment a worthwhile trade for the lesser sum even though that lesser sum has the same buying power. I think most of us get that its exactly the same as if they reduced the level cap from 99 to 10, and then reduced us all from 50 to 5. If they change all the mob levels commensurately its as if you are still a level 50 at level 5. I do understand that both logically and mathematically, but the point that you are missing is that if I had known up front this was going to happen I would have spent a large part of the last two years on other in game goals, and I would have spent more of the gil I was saving instead of making do with normal quality crafted gear in the name of that saving. I passed up doing other things like avatars and dungeons to make that gil, and that just became a poor trade. Yes even though the gil I am left with can in theory buy as much.

What I am saying may not be popular, but I haven't been uncivil in this to anyone who wasn't uncivil to me. In my two years on these forums I have made it a point to be both nice, and understanding towards other posters and SE.

I don't agree with you and you're wrong in the end but I like the post.

I'm fine with this change and I'm pushing 22m. Soon to be 2.2m.

[Aion]

Here I think you are missing the basic point that a person having invested a certain amount of time in the goal of earning X amount by the launch of 2.0 might not find that same time investment a worthwhile trade for the lesser sum even though that lesser sum has the same buying power. I think most of us get that its exactly the same as if they reduced the level cap from 99 to 10, and then reduced us all from 50 to 5. If they change all the mob levels commensurately its as if you are still a level 50 at level 5. I do understand that both logically and mathematically, but the point that you are missing is that if I had known up front this was going to happen I would have spent a large part of the last two years on other in game goals, and I would have spent more of the gil I was saving instead of making do with normal quality crafted gear in the name of that saving. I passed up doing other things like avatars and dungeons to make that gil, and that just became a poor trade. Yes even though the gil I am left with can in theory buy as much.

What I am saying may not be popular, but I haven't been uncivil in this to anyone who wasn't uncivil to me. In my two years on these forums I have made it a point to be both nice, and understanding towards other posters and SE.

if you have 100mil now, then it means you have 1/10 of maximum cap now
if you have 10 mil in ARR,it means you have 1/10 of maximum cap in ARR

with 100k now I can do npc repair 20 times
with 10k in ARR I can do npc repair 20 times

With 1,3 mil now, you can buy ~10 Steel Falchion from NPC http://mooglebox.com/entries/steel-falchion.php
with 130k in ARR,you can buy ~10 steel falchion from NPC

your money changes, but your wealth isnt

[Issachar]

if you have 100mil now, then it means you have 1/10 of maximum cap now
if you have 10 mil in ARR,it means you have 1/10 of maximum cap in ARR

with 100k now I can do npc repair 20 times
with 10k in ARR I can do npc repair 20 times

With 1,3 mil now, you can buy ~10 Steel Falchion from NPC http://mooglebox.com/entries/steel-falchion.php
with 130k in ARR,you can buy ~10 steel falchion from NPC

your money changes, but your wealth isnt

You fail to factor in the human influence in the wards. If you buy everything from npcs and get your repairs from npcs, you're doing it wrong anyways.

[Felis]

You fail to factor in the human influence in the wards. If you buy everything from npcs and get your repairs from npcs, you're doing it wrong anyways.

Say item x cost 20m in 1.0. Someone want to sell it in ARR for 15m (150m in 1.0). Most players have less than 7m in ARR (70m in 1.0).
The seller can now decrease his price or wait until the players have enough money. But don't forget, we get 1/10 gil from leves, from stuff we sell to npc, from quests, from chests and from monsters (I hope they change the "earn x gil from killing enemies" achievement). It get harder to earn the missing gil to buy the item that cost 15m. So the seller have no other choice than to decrease his price.

[Aion]

Say item x cost 20m in 1.0. Someone want to sell it in ARR for 15m (150m in 1.0). Most players don't have more than 7m in ARR (70m in 1.0).
The seller can now decrease his price or wait until the players have enough money. But don't forget, we get 1/10 gil from leves, from stuff we sell to npc, from quests, from chests and from monsters (I hope they change the "earn x gil from killing enemies" achievement). It get harder to earn the 8m to buy the item that cost 15m (the 8m would be the same as 80m in 1.0). So the seller have no other choice than to decrease his price.

LOGIC FTW!