ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Shougun]

why not leave the gil cap how it is now so the gil not being lowered?

The gil isnt being lowered in value - its being equally divided to maintain the same value *if an item was the same difficulty to obtain and disregarding player theory an item will cost the same in 1.0 as it does in 2.0.

The cap is being lowered to keep the same cap in %. Technically they could leave the cap, but this would mean they increased the cap.

The cap in respect to the rest of the market hasnt changed.

[moriandrio]

This Discussion is pointless. In ARR we will have a totally new situation, market starts from 0 and it will take time till prices gonna be set.

For sure cause there is less gil in the game the prices will be lower, how low they will go is something that depends on alot things we dont know yet so you can't say. All you can do now is wait for ARR, watch the Prices and discuss then why they still so high or low or whatever....

[NoctisUmbra]

There needs to be a pic of a slowpoke with Matsume written on it.

Also... dear god if I'm actually called a troll again I'm going to lose what little hope I have left in humanity ( or at least the fraction of it that are active on these forums.)

[Matsume]

Matsume, no one is arguing that the wards are going to drop to exactly 1/10th of what they are now. But you seem to be avidly arguing that they won't change at all, which is just as absurd.

People have mentioned it numerous times, economies are driven by supply and demand, no one makes lowbie gear, so the few people who do are free to charge whatever they can get away with.

For someone who's sig is full of their ffxi crafting savvy you sure complain a lot about not being able to find something that anyone who spent 30 minutes at a craft could make.

If you don't want to spend 200k for a level 8 item, spend ~3k for it's component pieces, 1k for the weathered tool for it's required craft and put it together yourself... at level one you should have no issue making it. Or see if you have a friend who can make it... you do have friends... right?

I never argued that prices would stay the same, just that its naive to think they will drop to 1/10th the current prices.

I'm not complaining about some guy charging 200K for an item that cost 2K, jut proving a point that the prices are elevated because people think they can get away with ripping other people off; which will continue after ARR regardless of the redenomination. And yes as noctis pointed out it's already happening.

Yes, I can make the item, and yes I have friends, ones with all crafts at lvl 50 AND all luminary items. Thank you very much.

Also... dear god if I'm actually called a troll again I'm going to lose what little hope I have left in humanity ( or at least the fraction of it that are active on these forums.)

I wasn't calling you a troll, just the guy defending you; besides why do you have any hope in humanity to begin with? I see no reason for such naivete.

[Chinchilla]

I wasn't aware they clarified this issue, and I'm glad they did. 1/10th really isn't a big deal.... I'd go on about how I don't understand why people are flipping out, but it's been beaten to death.

I think it's a bold move on SE's part that ensures that our economy keeps working w/o being over inflated like crazy. I do feel bad for carpenters though, I know most people w/CRP make their gil via arrow sales. Maybe make all the throwing weapons crafted by CRPs? Just a thought!

It'll be shaky for like 2 days, then everything will even up.

[Geesus]

I understand economics and I know all this makes sense in the long run and hopefully it will go as planned but, if I PERSONALLY knew that making Gil wasn't going to be as difficult as I found it in XI (not the same for others I know) then I wouldn't be so :-s about this. Not going to flip out but I'm not going to say I'm not concerned as well. It felt good to be able to hold a solid 1-2 Mil amount on my character in XIV and therefore the stress of not being able to afford something in game was removed for me. I hope this continues with 2.0 as well. I definitely won't be quitting because of this I'm still excited and all just hope it doesn't effect me as much as my unfounded worries are making me THINK it will. lol

[darkstarpoet1]

i personally believe the buying power is drastically going to change in 2.0, but the gil change is going to have alot less to do with it than other changes going into the game are.

the biggest issue that's going to affect your buying power will be the crafting changes. to say you can't craft a recipe until you get the recipe for it is going to drastically affect the prices of every item in the wards.

let's look at an example.
Darksteel Huebergeon
Garlean Steel Plate
Darksteel Ingot
Hippogryph Leather
Undyed Felt
Darksteel Nugget

that's 5 items and you are going to have to wait until 5 people get lucky and get those recipes to be able to craft those items. that's just to be able to get the materials to make them. now you then have to wait until someone gets the recipe in their book to be able to make that single piece of gear. the first person that gets that recipe for any part of that synth can sell those items for whatever they want and you can either pay them or not get the gear you are after.

the biggest advice is anything you know you will be needing come 2.0 you better stock up on now because when 2.0 comes out just with the crafting changes it may be a long time until it makes it into the wards and then even longer before they become affordable.

[mbncd]

i personally believe the buying power is drastically going to change in 2.0, but the gil change is going to have alot less to do with it than other changes going into the game are.

the biggest issue that's going to affect your buying power will be the crafting changes. to say you can't craft a recipe until you get the recipe for it is going to drastically affect the prices of every item in the wards.

let's look at an example.
Darksteel Huebergeon
Garlean Steel Plate
Darksteel Ingot
Hippogryph Leather
Undyed Felt
Darksteel Nugget

that's 5 items and you are going to have to wait until 5 people get lucky and get those recipes to be able to craft those items. that's just to be able to get the materials to make them. now you then have to wait until someone gets the recipe in their book to be able to make that single piece of gear. the first person that gets that recipe for any part of that synth can sell those items for whatever they want and you can either pay them or not get the gear you are after.

the biggest advice is anything you know you will be needing come 2.0 you better stock up on now because when 2.0 comes out just with the crafting changes it may be a long time until it makes it into the wards and then even longer before they become affordable.

I would expect that most recipe book entries would be based on level. For instance, if you get level 10, all recipes of that class up to level 15 or 20 automatically unlock. The only exceptions would be super rare things as a result of quest rewards or the like but I don't think anything we can make freely now will later be restricted by that. That's just a theory mind you but I'm pretty confident in it.

[darkstarpoet1]

I would expect that most recipe book entries would be based on level. For instance, if you get level 10, all recipes of that class up to level 15 or 20 automatically unlock. The only exceptions would be super rare things as a result of quest rewards or the like but I don't think anything we can make freely now will later be restricted by that. That's just a theory mind you but I'm pretty confident in it.

i actually hope you are correct, but seeing the response to the question that rein translated has me more worried. they mentioned questing and adding recipes you are given to your book. it worries my you may have to do like a quest to make gloves as weavers and can't make any type of gloves at all until they complete it. that or you will get recipes from leve completions like we did originally and then everyone would be spamming leves hoping to be the first to get that one good new recipe. if it's like leves are now you may do 1000 leves and never get any single recipe you actually want to use.