ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[NefarioCall]

i hope this topic continues to persist well past 1,000 replies.
This whole thing is a kick in the nuts.
I get it, the market is inflated.
I walked into WoW the other day and was so proud of my first gold until i realised cheap gear is several hundred G.

But this is a kick in the balls.
Yes, a worldwide cut is equal and so on...
yeah right...
The chances of this actually making our overhead cost equal or less is erm ... limited.

I've got a great example.
I used to get a $75 monthly tax return from the government.
Then they introduced this new 'Trillium benefit' tax return.
We're all getting more money! YAY! (okay, not the less money boo of this topic, but bear with me)
The new Tax return was for me a full $50 a month.
What they completely didn't mention is that my old $75 credits would stop arriving.

[KaplanHomahru]

i hope this topic continues to persist well past 1,000 replies.
This whole thing is a kick in the nuts.
I get it, the market is inflated.
I walked into WoW the other day and was so proud of my first gold until i realised cheap gear is several hundred G.

But this is a kick in the balls.
Yes, a worldwide cut is equal and so on...
yeah right...
The chances of this actually making our overhead cost equal or less is erm ... limited.

I've got a great example.
I used to get a $75 monthly tax return from the government.
Then they introduced this new 'Trillium benefit' tax return.
We're all getting more money! YAY! (okay, not the less money boo of this topic, but bear with me)
The new Tax return was for me a full $50 a month.
What they completely didn't mention is that my old $75 credits would stop arriving.

There are good comparisons, bad comparisons, and then there is that.

Based on your post, I suggest you set aside some time to reread both the announcement from yoshi and this thread so you can come to a better understanding of what is being done and the likely future outcomes. Namely that, relatively speaking about our Gil, nothing is really changing. And that aside from initial inflation the economy will be pretty much normal, dictated as always by supply, demand and our Gil.

[Enma]

I walked into WoW the other day

[NoctisUmbra]

Even if they enter new servers where the economy will be fresh, they'll be gaining gil at the new denomination.

[Matsume]

Even if they enter new servers where the economy will be fresh, they'll be gaining gil at the new denomination.

What the... how... WHY is this debate still going on???



Also relevant: Yesterday I walked into the market wards to buy a lvl 18 goldsmithing main hand to lvl up my goldsmith. There weren't any up for sale. Cool dadyo, I'll just buy a lvl 8 mainhand instead, good thing there is one left for sale.









200K.







?????





**** this economy, nothing will change after ARR because people don't have any logical reason for pricing the items the way they do in the first place and that wont change after the gil redenomination either. Goes back to fishing.

[NoctisUmbra]

Also relevant: Yesterday I walked into the market wards to buy a lvl 18 goldsmithing main hand to lvl up my goldsmith. There weren't any up for sale. Cool dadyo, I'll just buy a lvl 8 mainhand instead, good thing there is one left for sale.

200K.


?????

**** this economy, nothing will change after ARR because people don't have any logical reason for pricing the items the way they do in the first place and that wont change after the gil redenomination either. Goes back to fishing.

Sooo... you've just discovered that low level gear tends to be way overpriced due to crafters not bothering to make them to sell, thus low supply. You acknowledge this as a problem with the market... and you're expressing your disappointment in the redenomination because its not fixing it?

Lol. Yea. That's what redenominating was supposed to do.

[Matsume]

Sooo... you've just discovered that low level gear tends to be way overpriced due to crafters not bothering to make them to sell, thus low supply. You acknowledge this as a problem with the market... and you're expressing your disappointment in the redenomination because its not fixing it?

Lol. Yea. That's what redenominating was supposed to do.

Yeaaaah Noctis, I "just" figured this out like yesterday and not a year ago when I went around killing NMs for their gear instead of paying market ward prices.

So, you acknowledge that exessive market ward prices for low lvl gear are caused by human greed and lack of crafters producing them and have nothing to do with total money supply in the game yet you continue to believe people will price these items at 1/10th after the redenomination?

[whoopeeragon]

Yeaaaah Noctis, I "just" figured this out like yesterday and not a year ago when I went around killing NMs for their gear instead of paying market ward prices.

So, you acknowledge that exessive market ward prices for low lvl gear are caused by human greed and lack of crafters producing them and have nothing to do with total money supply in the game yet you continue to believe people will price these items at 1/10th after the redenomination?

Are you even reading what he posts? He never said ANYTHING about the price of items being 1/10th as they are, but merely that based on the CHANGING ECONOMY and DIFFERENT SUPPLY AND DEMANDS of OLD AND NEW ITEMS IN THE GAME, prices will fluctuate but will settle out lower than what they are now. We don't know HOW the game's influx of materials, gear and necessities will be changed in ARR, but that knowledge of changes between rates, introduction of new items and removal of old items is enough to warrant a substantial reshuffle of prices amongst things. Some materials may end up being 5% of the price they were originally in 1.0, while others may decrease only 50%. In this, new players will be ON LEVEL GROUND with old players, as even the old players can use crystal balls to view which materials will be more likely to earn them wealth at the beginning of the game.

And in case you may have not noticed...there's not that many for sale not merely because of human greed of lack of crafters, BUT LACK OF DEMAND. I'm going to sound hypocritical, but if everyone wasn't high-levelled in all disciplines, there would be more demand for lower-levelled gear. Actually, I'm no hypocritical at all, as I still require low-level gear for my crafter and gathering disciplines. I also give what I take - once I'm done with a piece, I don't usually NPC or chuck it, I sell it back at market wards. I even make some hempen and cotton gear and put them up periodically, and they take a few days, but they sell. So may I suggest you make your own, make a few more, then let them enter the market system to circle around, as brief a lifespan as they may be.

[KaplanHomahru]

Yeaaaah Noctis, I "just" figured this out like yesterday and not a year ago when I went around killing NMs for their gear instead of paying market ward prices.

So, you acknowledge that exessive market ward prices for low lvl gear are caused by human greed and lack of crafters producing them and have nothing to do with total money supply in the game yet you continue to believe people will price these items at 1/10th after the redenomination?

I think the huge amount of Gil already in circulation contributes to why everything is priced high. And lack of supply, of course.

[PandaTaru]

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