ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Rannie]

Well of course! I won't take THAT away from you! ^^;

lol thank you ^_____^

[Claustrum]

Just because the reason for an action is bad does not mean the action itself is bad.

Plus, we're talking about a decision which was made by many people, all with their own reasons for liking/disliking the decision. These reasons were then mostly cast aside and summarized by one man. This summary was then translated and given to us. We are now taking full liberty to interpret this however we see fit. And for some reason we think our interpretation, of the translation, of the summary of several reasons is the core reason, and because it sucks, the whole change itself sucks?

Edit: I suppose SE did set themselves up for this sort of reaction when they said, and I quote: "I'd like to make it clear that we have no other agenda in wanting to reduce the amount of gil everyone has currently." I personally believe this is poorly translated, however, and is supposed to mean "We aren't doing this to screw you. We really do have good intentions at heart."

[Rannie]

no one ever said that after 2.0 making gil would be easy hell they even said they were reducing EVERYTHING (not including market wards since that is player controlled) down to 1/10. Everything from Leves to npc's

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...748#post831748

go read that again it's all in red

[Tactic]

which mean new player from ps3 will struggle in hell to get gils and old player from this version will dominate the world !

600 gills from a leve instead of 6k! you can have that! do 20 000 of them if you want something cool!

[Shougun]

which mean new player from ps3 will struggle in hell to get gils and old player from this version will dominate the world !

600 gills from a leve instead of 6k! you can have that! do 20 000 of them if you want something cool!

Our gil is cut by the same ratio. For all intents and purposes 600 gil (2.0) = 6000 gil (1.0).

[Duuude007]

Our gil is cut by the same ratio. For all intents and purposes 600 gil (2.0) = 6000 gil (1.0).

Precisely.

[zzapp]

no one ever said that after 2.0 making gil would be easy hell they even said they were reducing EVERYTHING (not including market wards since that is player controlled) down to 1/10. Everything from Leves to npc's

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...748#post831748

go read that again it's all in red

Case. Closed. ^^

OK, consider me among the converted. Let's just hope that SE lives up to what they're promising here.

For those who are still unsure of this, kindly consider this - the total monetary base of this game is decided soley by SE. It's a combination of what they allow as an opening gil position, and what they introduce into the game as NEW gil from leves and other rewards and npc selling prices. That's it. It's that simple. When you farm or craft items and sell them, you're not 'creating' gil, but, rather shifting worth in the current base.

Sorry I didn't catch this @ first read, and thanks for redirecting my attention. Toodles.

[NoctisUmbra]

Also a lot of people are posting knee jerk reactions without giving much thought.

Now let's consider the primary topic of discussion in this thread: how the player-driven market will respond to this new denomination.

A lot of us seem keen on discussing whether prices will drop to 10%, how quickly they'll drop, or even if they'll drop at all. Everyone is so keen on predicting the impact of this redenomination as a lone variable, when in fact it isn't.

Consider the timing of this redenomination. We're entering a new game, for all intents and purposes, where some items that currently exist are to be destroyed (converted to gil), new items are to be introduced , and the rest are to have new values based on balance changes and DoH/L changes. Essentially, even if there was no redenomination to be done and we were to enter ARR with our current inflated gil values, the market would still be drastically different than it is now.

Prices in the market fluctuate by large values all the time based on supply and ever changing demand. So expecting prices to remain as they are now in 1.0 after we move to ARR is already far fetched.

After we accept that prices will drop drastically in the market due to the new denomination of gil, discussing whether or not they will drop to 10% is ludicrous when so many stronger variables are at work. Why discuss whether a material will drop in price from 3k to 300 each when gathering and crafting changes can easily have that value fluctuate anywhere between 100 and 1k or more?

TL;DR: They couldn't have picked a better time to redenominate gil since the player driven market will already need to rebalance after we switch to ARR due to balance and DoH/L changes.

[Matsume]

I still blame the rabbit

[PandaTaru]

A little interlude I'm sure will lighten everyone's heart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC1tikkotVU