ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Molly_Millions]

Pretty risky considering certain things may drop in value due to less money being in circulation, and we don't know how less effective materia will become.

But if you happen to be over the cap, then aside from putting some on a retainer, spending the rest on items is really the only thing you can do to ensure you don't just lose it.

[Xenor]

It'll be a lot of money in ARR once they cap you.

Do you have a source for this? I don't remember them saying we're losing a retainer, only that their max inventory will shrink

No it won't, not if I'll only be 3 times as rich as you rather than 15 times as rich.

I do not, I thought it was common knowledge by now that the second retainer is temporary. But maybe not.

And no I won't "invest" in gear like some people suggest. This is a game where the price of things like Crab Bow +3 can drop from 20mil to 5k over the course of a patch. Who knows what will become trash in patch 2.0? Gambling is a one way path to losing everything. But if you must gamble you'd be safer investing in raw materials. Even then with changes to gathering we don't know how the supply chain will change.

[Phrozen]

i'm missing the part where this is a good idea

[Ferth]

Reading rein's translation it seemed to imply that everyone would just have a tenth of their total gil in 2.0 As has been mentioned earlier that means that if you have 150,000,000 you would drop down to 15,000,000 or if you had 1,000 you'd end up with 100.

The other people who made this assumption seem to have been shot down, though honestly it makes FAR MORE sense than saying everyone over cap will be capped and everyone else will stay where they are. Basically it would just be a worlds wide readjustment to the value of each individual gil. (reducing 90% of the amount of gil in the game OVERALL thus making everyone's gil worth more, the rich would stay JUST AS RICH, the poor would still be JUST AS POOR, the only thing that would change is the exact number everyone has in their inventory.)

Clarification is most certainly needed here, but hopefully that will come with the official translation. (Though sooner certainly wouldn't hurt matters.)

[Orophin]

Reading rein's translation it seemed to imply that everyone would just have a tenth of their total gil in 2.0 As has been mentioned earlier that means that if you have 150,000,000 you would drop down to 15,000,000 or if you had 1,000 you'd end up with 100.

You should probably read Bayohne's translation, since while I appreciate Reinheart's work, he'll be the first one to admit his translations aren't always 100% accurate. People can sometimes interpret things incorrectly.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post826003 - Bayohne Translation

Q: Will you wipe gil from our characters or change the currency with the launch of ARR?

A: No, there won't be a gil wipe. However, we do currently have plans to decrease the max digit by 1 (999,999,999 > 99,999,999)

Nowhere does that say that EVERYONE's gil is getting reduced. All this implies is that anyone with a gil amount over 99,999,999 will be capped at that value in ARR. Reinheart's translation seems to expand on what Yoshida said, but all he said was that vendor items were going to be reduced in cost.

Reinheart translation:

We already mentioned before we would not wipe but we will put this on topics but for example arrow price is bit expensive so stuff like that will change, and gil total will be less by 1 digit for all players and at same time all NPC sold items will be 1 less digit (1,000 gil > 100 gil)

I emphasized the bolded part because I believe Bayohne's translation is more accurate for that specific part.

[Xenor]

You should probably read Bayohne's translation, since while I appreciate Reinheart's work, he'll be the first one to admit his translations aren't always 100% accurate. People can sometimes interpret things incorrectly.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post826003 - Bayohne Translation

Nowhere does that say that EVERYONE's gil is getting reduced. All this implies is that anyone with a gil amount over 99,999,999 will be capped at that value in ARR. Reinheart's translation seems to expand on what Yoshida said, but all he said was that vendor items were going to be reduced in cost and what they buy items for will also be reduced.

Reinheart translation:


I emphasized the bolded part because I believe Bayohne's translation is more accurate for that specific part.

Bayohne's translation is confusing because it begins with "No, there won't be a gil wipe". I consider losing hundreds of millions to be a gil wipe. I'm more inclined to believe it's a mis-translation and we'll be divided by 10. They do this kind of thing in the real world too, it's called redenomination. Look at Zimbabwe for a recent example.

[lordvr]

Bayohne's translation is confusing because it begins with "No, there won't be a gil wipe". I consider losing hundreds of millions to be a gil wipe. I'm more inclined to believe it's a mis-translation and we'll be divided by 10. They do this kind of thing in the real world too, it's called redenomination. Look at Zimbabwe for a recent example.

Redenomination is exactly what it said in Japanese, as a matter of fact. Why Bayone chose to ignore the word in the English version is beyond me.

[Takeshi_Eiketsu]

Bump for interest in a dev clarification...

[TheRac25]

Redenomination is exactly what it said in Japanese, as a matter of fact. Why Bayone chose to ignore the word in the English version is beyond me.

yes perhaps they are rethinking this and that is the cause for their delay in clarifying, or it could just be SE being SE

[PandaTaru]

Bayohne's translation is confusing because it begins with "No, there won't be a gil wipe". I consider losing hundreds of millions to be a gil wipe. I'm more inclined to believe it's a mis-translation and we'll be divided by 10. They do this kind of thing in the real world too, it's called redenomination. Look at Zimbabwe for a recent example.

Yup, that's a disguised gil wipe if they do change our gil by 1 digit as well. If they really wanted to fix the economy to keep prices reasonable, they would fix the rate at which we can get items - drop/spiritbound/everything else.

I'm sure the psychological effect of going from a double/triple digit in your gil bank to a single/double alone will make some people quit. Then, if they don't fix the rate at which we can get items and the price of some items still skyrocket (materia needed for Relics as example) will make the other bunch quit. I will for sure.